Ashlea Stinnett | Shapeshifting Sasquatch People and the Deceptive Nature of Media

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Hello, my name is Chris Snipes and you are listening to The

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Hello, all you fine kindred spirits out there. Long time no

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anything. As promised, the MELT episodes

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are coming out very sporadically, kind of fitting them in when I have a spare

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hour or two in between going to school full-time

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at the David Lynch Screenwriting School at the MIU,

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Maharishi International University, in Fairfield, Iowa,

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and working full-time. And all of the other stuff

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that entails a life, a relationship with your wife and your

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children and so on and so forth. So I feel

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I have been feeling very spread thin, but it's getting better.

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I'm getting back on my metaphorical feet.

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And yeah, things are looking up.

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And I had an extra hour this weekend and

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got a gentle tap from Ashley Stinnett who is the guest on this episode,

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asking very nicely when our episode might be out.

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And I took that as the nudge that I needed from the universe to

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get on that, because there's a few on the back burner that I really,

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really would like to release, and I plan on it. It's just going to take

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a little time. But thank you, Ashley, for that tap.

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This is Ashley's second appearance on The Melt. She so kindly

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reached out and asked if I would have her on again.

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She had some more stories and life experiences and anecdotes to share.

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And of course, I wanted to oblige her. So yeah, I was

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gonna ask her to come on anyway. So it worked out well.

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And in the nature of the way that The Melt has been in

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the recent past, this is sort of a stripped-down episode.

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I don't have time to flesh them out and put

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as much time and energy as I used to into them because my time is

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so much at a premium. So that makes me sound

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self-important, but I really don't mean to come off that way. But,

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um, yeah, but I still so much

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value these conversations. I really, really enjoy having them.

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As a matter of fact, this podcast is basically an excuse to have conversations

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with all of these interesting people and to delve into their research and their firsthand

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experiences with this very, very interesting

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realm in which we find ourselves. So those of you who have

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stuck around and supported us through this whole time,

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it is— I really can't put into words how important it is,

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um, because I haven't really been

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able to deliver very much on the Locals and Patreon

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front at all, just because of the, the lack of time that I have

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and a lack of energy to be able to devote to that. So supporting

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within that context is even much more of a selfless deed.

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And so I really, really, really appreciate that.

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It does take money to keep the website up and running and all of

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And those subscriptions or one-time payments,

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however you want to do it, are still open. The links will be in the

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having it in mind to have another MELT meetup, which we've been really,

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really lax on, sometime over the Christmas

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break, over the winter break. If there are those of you who

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would be interested in participating in that, it might be a good time to join.

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Those of you who are already members, maybe send

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me a message and let me know if that's something that you would be into.

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And if so, what topics you would be open to discussing.

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So anyway, without further ado, let's get into the conversation with

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Ashley. Um, yeah, it's a good one. So just, uh,

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make some hot cocoa or a hot toddy or whatever it is that, uh,

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soothes your, your savage soul and, uh, have a listen.

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Good to be here. Thank you so much. Um, I'm excited.

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I'm excited to talk. Yeah, for sure.

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And you just, did you just get done moving?

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I did. I did. Um, I,

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in April, I left the Pacific Northwest and

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I was en route to New Mexico and had made

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these plans to, cause I had, uh,

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my partner and I, uh, separated, um,

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on good terms, but separation and new paths

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and new journeys. And for me, that was going to take

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me to New Mexico in an off-grid situation

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out in the desert, building a tiny home. Cool.

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And yeah, really cool. And I packed

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up the essentials and started heading

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to the Southwest and stopped

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in, in Northern Arizona to visit a friend.

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And I was gonna be here for maybe like a week to 10 days,

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and then I was gonna skip on over to New Mexico.

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But, uh, synchronistically,

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uh, serendipitously, like however

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the, you know, the wheels turn, um,

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I got a phone call from the people that I was gonna be doing that

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build with, and they were like, you know, it's just too expensive.

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It's, it's the, the, the materials are, have skyrocketed.

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It doesn't make sense. Um, and I don't know if

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you want to live in a tent off-grid in the middle of the desert in

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New Mexico and in the summertime. I was

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like, you know, this little mountain town I found myself in might

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just be a place that I, I put some roots down.

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Cool. And, and so I have, and And

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it certainly gets squatchy.

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Um, oh, nice. So you were meant to be there.

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Totally. Oh, you, I tell you,

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I got a story. I have a story.

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I have lots of stories. Um, so I, I got here

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in April and where are we at? We're at August

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2nd right now. And, um,

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so much has happened.

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Um, but it even started before I moved here. So this is,

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this is pretty phenomenal. Um, I think when we were talking last,

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um, I told you guys about Mount Tabor, right?

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Yes. Okay. So,

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um, amazingly too, my,

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my kind of like research and connection with Mount Tabor

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started, uh, in 2025 in

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April. Okay. And then literally like

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to the day, like 365 days later,

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I'm leaving that area and saying goodbye

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to Tabor after a full year of, um,

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of the contemplation and the connection and the experiences and everything

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that went down and everything I was shown through

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that. And one of the things that happened

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was in December of 2025

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on the solstice. Um, my,

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my ex and I had gone to Tabor.

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Um, and I did make a video out of this

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and it's called The Sasquatch People and the Snowberries

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of Winter Solstice. I highly suggest to go and check that

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out on my YouTube channel. Um, cause it, uh, just documented the entire day.

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So this story is going to have a visual to it.

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But one of the things that was found on that day at

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Structure 4 complex, which was a large area kind

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of tucked away off trail in the park where they had built

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and continued to build on a large, wonderful structure.

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And We went over to check it out and,

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uh, and I'm filming as this happens. I looked behind

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me and there was a bay tree behind me.

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And on the branch, on the tip of the branch, there was

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plant material. And it was white.

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It was fibrous. It was also a classic Pacific

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Northwest day. Um, it was misty. It was

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cold. It was drizzly gray.

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And so this plant material hanging off the tip of this branch was wet and

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soggy. And I looked at it and I walked up to it and it

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just, it really, first and foremost, you're not part of this environment.

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You know, you were placed,

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somebody took something and put it and draped

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it on, on there. And so I was noteworthy.

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I took note of that, but I didn't touch it.

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And I did go back, um,

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over the weeks, maybe say like 2 weeks from,

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from solstice, it was still there. And then at some point it,

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it did go away. So this was,

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it was just an anomaly. And, um, and I

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left it at that, but like 4 months ago, I got

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a, I got a message on that video

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from a YouTube viewer. And he said,

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I know what that plant material is. And it does not

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grow in the Pacific Northwest.

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He said, that's wild cotton and it grows in the Southwest.

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Holy shit. And specifically it grows in

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this town that I'm living in. Wow.

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Crazy. Right? So this is also like,

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I haven't done like the deep dive. To find out literally the

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life cycle of wild cotton. But I have a question.

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Does it even grow to that length and size and

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whatever, like state of maturity in December? I don't

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know. Because the mountains up here do get cold. It is, you know,

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wintertime up here, but out of space and

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time, plant material put on the tip of a branch.

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For me to see that did not make sense until months

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and months later. And then like cherry on top,

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because, um, everything is multilayered with

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meaning and significance and symbolism when it

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comes to the things that they say to us and how

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they express. When I did arrive here in April,

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the cotton from the cottonwood trees was in

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full bloom and had blanketed this place like it was

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you know, wintertime, and there was just flurries of this cotton,

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uh, from the cottonwood everywhere that we walked, which,

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um, uh, my friend and I, she, she's done exploring

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around here and found Sasquatch activity. So during

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that kind of formative time, when I first got here, I had a month

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and a half, um, just hanging out with her and being

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in nature and Um, and then it

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was the cotton that was just flying all around us in,

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in, in this new connection with,

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with the Sasquatch people here. They knew, you know, were they at Tabor?

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Were, are, uh, it's just the,

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with their collective consciousness, you know,

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and their ability to do so many things in connection with us,

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you know, everything's on the table. Yeah, exactly. Not with how

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they're doing things, but they're doing it. Yeah.

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And I wonder how that network works,

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like the hive mind that we've talked about and that

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you've mentioned many times, if that,

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if there's different iterations of that, like it's

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also been talked about that Sasquatch are sort of on different frequencies

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like people are, like some people are very spiritually aligned

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and attuned and they're very peaceful and they attract that and they send

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that out. And some are very violent and self-centered

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and ego-based. So I'm assuming there's different

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frequencies in that realm too. And are they all,

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like, do they all have their own channel almost? Like,

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are they all chaotically communicating together in the hive

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mind? Or are they just kind of communicating with the like?

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The like. Yeah. Does that make any sense?

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You know, I mean, it's a topic that I am

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speaking to people often when, you know, like I just went up to

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Oregon and did a conference. So I had a lot of one-on-one with people who

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came. And that is a question that gets brought up. Well, you've got these stories

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that where there's aggression and there's maybe

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more of like these lower, what we would say, like human

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responses of, you know, those lower vibe stuff.

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And then you have, um, people having super high vibe experiences.

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And what is that? Um, what is that,

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that broadband of, of them?

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And so, I mean, I'm kind of not

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the best to ask that question because I have only really experienced

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them at that higher place. Like the Sasquatch

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people that I have had contact with all over Um,

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they are at that higher level. They, there, there is, there is a

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respect there. I haven't had aggressive things, although, you know,

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in the moment there can be heightened emotion in the experience,

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but, you know, on the flip side of that and, and, and at the,

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you know, breaking it down and, and integrating the experience,

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it's like, no, that, that was, that was an internal experience.

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It wasn't because of them, you know?

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So, so I don't know, man. I mean, like they, there is

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a collective aspect, at least, you know, with these

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higher ones. And, and I say that, but again, it's like,

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I've only experienced that. I've only experienced them in

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this, uh, knowing of past, present, future.

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Of being compassionate, um, of teaching,

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you know, teaching roles, um, and, and teaching

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in really good ways to where, again, it's,

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it's not them just laying out for us like, yeah, here's,

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here's the whole big book of all the answers. It's like, no, you know,

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here's, here's something for you to ask more questions about.

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And so,

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um, I don't know. And, and I, I'll,

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I'll actually, I'll take this, I'll take this, I'll take this a

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little further and, and then also add

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the question of how many of those stories that we hear that are

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fear-based and having bad experiences, where was that individual

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within their fear, within the filter that

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they put the experience? Um, were they aggressive? Were they someplace

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they weren't supposed to be? Did they experience all of that for these

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other reasons. And then we think, oh, well, that just

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means there's a whole bunch of them who are running around who are like us

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within these really dark places

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where we do dumb shit against ourselves,

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against humanity, against each other.

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So I don't know. But this

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is an interesting thing and it's

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Um, I, I haven't really talked super publicly about it, although it has been publicly

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spoken about, and I don't feel like I'm like, um,

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overstepping boundaries of anything,

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but it's really, really good contemplation. Um,

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my, my friend, dear friend, Tom Cantrell, um,

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he passed away last year. And, uh,

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what a life. He, he was in his 80s and he had over

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60 years of some of the most

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beautiful and intense and loving teaching relationships

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with the Sasquatch people. And he had a,

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he had a guide, he had a teacher. Um,

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and, and he had 60 years,

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uh, or excuse me, not 60 years of conversation with him. I think he met,

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they met in like 2012. So he had years and years and years

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of, of asking these questions and he didn't, he didn't get

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a lot of answers too. Like, like his teacher would be like, it's not,

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it's not the time for you to know that right now. That was kind of

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like a, one of those things that was said often when he was

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asking like the bigger questions. But before Tom

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passed, I had a burning question. I had a question and,

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and I asked him. And I said,

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I said, what do the Sasquatch people think

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about Jesus Christ? What are their thoughts about

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the Christ and, and, and that whole thing?

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And Tom said that he had asked a similar question

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and the response that he got from his teacher was,

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The Christ is the savior of your people,

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but he is not the savior of our people.

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And so I followed up with that and I asked,

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I said, Tom, when they leave the earthly realm,

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when they go in between and they're going to a different realm,

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do they have access to the heavenly realms?

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And he said, yes, they do. They are going back and forth

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from the physical realm to the heavenly realm.

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And so the third question that I asked was,

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so are we talking about individuals who never fell?

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They don't need a savior. They're, they're,

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they never lost that 1 billion

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percent connection cord to God.

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Right? And to kind of like further back that up, because there's so many people

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out there who just want to plump them into this category of

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Nephilim, you know, it's like, come on, that's,

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that's not what we're dealing with here. That's, that's so not

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what we're dealing with. And, and really in these experiences that

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I've had in, in the connections,

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it's, it's always this higher, higher, higher aspect

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of, you know,

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physical, mental, spiritual perfection

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that, you know, we can be the kindergarten

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students of, you know, because there's just

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that much difference in their levels of the, of the respect, of the

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love, of the compassion, of, you know, the harmony and the

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balance. So, um, you know, again, that goes back

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and it's like, well, could someone like that be in these

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lower realms of, you know,

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murdering or scaring or doing

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all this crazy stuff? Um, where a lot of

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that monster mentality comes into play with, with,

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um, the way that they've been presented, you know, at least for like

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the last like 20 30 years? Totally changing these days,

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you know. Um, I think,

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I mean, I think that A Flash of Beauty and what

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the filmmakers have been able to bring forth,

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which again is just like real people and their real

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experiences with the Sasquatch. The most important thing is

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the personal story. And, um, and then it's just

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like, there's so many people now who have started their own

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YouTube channels, who are starting their own local groups.

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And, um, and it's, and it's

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rapidly evolving.

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And I don't know how comfortable I was

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last time when I was talking to you, or if this event had,

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uh, had happened yet. But on,

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on, well, I guess it did because there, there were some things

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that happened in the very beginning. But, um,

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one of the things that I experienced at Mount Tabor

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from April 2025 to '26

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was the Sasquatch shape-shifted into human form

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and walking amongst the people and interacting with

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me. And interacting with people who I brought in and met up

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with to do tours of the park, right?

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Like the, it happened, it happened on multiple

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occasions where like the telltale signs were

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easy to, to notice, to,

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to, um, to know that

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that was happening, you know, and then it was also not just me who were

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getting those knowings. During that time, but also the other people who experienced it too.

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And this, I'm, you know, I'm getting these stories

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and these connections from people, um, in all different

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areas. And this same story is happening.

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People are having very questionable experiences

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in their local parks with human-looking people,

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lots of air quotations going on here.

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Um, and, and, and, and the more honest

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and truthful question about that is, are they, are they human?

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And, um, because there's just been enough evidence

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shown to me that no, they weren't human. They were

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Sasquatch people. And they,

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they're, we know that there's like shape-shifting in this world,

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right? Yeah, for sure. You know, certainly hot topic in, in conspiracy.

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Uh, with, with reptilians and kind of like these more nefarious,

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um, skinwalkers, skinwalkers, you know,

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more on that like lower level. Yeah. Um,

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it also seems like they can't hold frequencies very well and they glitch. And that's

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how we've been able to see the evidence of that. You know,

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I can say that like what I experienced in,

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in these encounters There was absolutely,

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absolutely no way whatsoever that I would

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be able to tell that that person was shapeshifted except

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for what they said, how they said it,

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and, and like their physical actions,

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because those things were not human-like.

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Like the body language, you mean? Body language, how they spoke

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and what they said. Interesting. So did

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they come off as sounding like somebody trying to sound like

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they think a human would sound kind of in that sense? Or so,

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okay. Um, I'll give you, I'll give you quick examples.

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The first, the first time that it happened, um,

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during this April to April Tabor experience,

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um, I was outside Uh, the first structure and

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I had walked up and there was a mom who was sitting on the ground

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and her daughter was actually playing around on the structure like

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it was a fort, you know, she was climbing it and whatnot.

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And the, the lady was just kind of like quizzically looking at it.

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And I walked up to her and we struck up conversation and,

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and I, and I, I felt comfortable enough to be like, yeah,

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actually this is what I think is going on. I think Sasquatch people

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made it. And la la la. And she was open to

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hearing what I had to say. And as this was happening, you know,

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this structure is built off a, off of a Douglas fir that's

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about 100 feet long. All the branches had been cut off of it. So it

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was just this big long log with the root ball at the end and then

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the structure built on the root ball. And so I look at the end

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of, you know, the top of the tree and there's a group of like 6

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or 7 elderly people between their 60s and 70s,

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all smaller and kind of like chubby and

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all the same height, but smaller. And I

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look over and they're giggling. They're giggling. They're like belly rolling.

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They're laughing. And then I turned my head back to this lady

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and I'm talking to her still. And then a couple seconds go by and

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I look back and now this group of, of elderly people are

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running down the side of this log at top speed.

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What? Yeah, they, they, they push

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past us and we kind of like move out of the way and

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they all file into the interior of this structure,

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which, um, should not have been able to hold

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6 people of their size. Crazy.

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And then the woman looks at me and I look at her. And she says,

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I've got to go. Goodbye. And I said, I've got to go.

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Goodbye. And she and her daughter walked to her vehicle. I walked

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to my truck. I get in and it's, I'm halfway home before like I shake

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it off and I'm like, what am I doing? How did I even get here?

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Like I wasn't planning on leaving, you know?

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Crazy. So, so that was interesting behavior,

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right? Like, and,

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um, and then they do Jedi mind tricks like that. They can mind

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control you. And make you do things. So,

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you know, that's just, that's a thing. Interesting.

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Um, and, and so then, yeah, there was another time

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where I met up with a friend, Chris, and this was at Structure 1

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again. And, um, and I think we

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might've been running around that place for like 4 hours. Um, um,

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just, I was showing him everything and then we like

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circled back around to Structure 1 and we heard voices inside.

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And for the most part, nobody pays attention to these. And so it

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was like, ooh, someone, someone's in there. Let's go see who it is. And so

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it was a young boy. He was presenting as

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a young boy. He had long blonde hair,

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maybe approximately like 10 years old, very androgynous looking though.

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And, and then a young man,

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maybe like 28 to 32, small build,

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small, you know, not muscular,

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and, and he was crouched on the ground in like

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a primitive crouch with his back facing to us.

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And a whole series of events happened in there,

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um, to include things that this man said,

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which he never got up. He never showed his face.

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And then he, he spoke like this and had

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a very deep voice and he had inflection on his words.

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And it was like, you're not a 28 to 32 year old Portland

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guy, you know? Yeah. This is different.

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And the kid acted, I mean, like there's a whole thing that happened.

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I'm trying to make this short. So anyways, like,

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yeah, it was, it was the way that this guy

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spoke, the things that he said, the way the child acted. And then on

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December 21st, when, you know, that piece of

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cotton Wild Cotton was on the Bay Tree at

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the top of Mount Tabor, because again, Mount Tabor is a volcano

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in the middle of the city. You know, there's a lot of, there's a lot

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of energy there. There's a lot of stuff going on. And also,

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I don't think the Sasquatch are the only ones there. And,

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you know, it might just be a hub, just the same many,

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just the same as many mountains are hubs and

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airports or All the dimensionals. So thin

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places. Yeah. And, um, and so,

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yeah, in this video, there's another example

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of where I, I, in, even in the moment, in the moment,

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I knew from the fucking moment that I saw these

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kids walking up, I knew that they weren't

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human. It was just, it was just this internal knowing, but at the top of

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Mount Tabor, Um, there are these 4

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maples and they're all growing together and there's this space

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in between the maples. And, um, and we get

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up there and it is gorgeous, you know,

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just misty mountain gray

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and, and, and so beautiful.

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And we walk up there and a structure kind of canopy had

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been created over the space in between these

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4 maples. And, and, uh,

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and we walk up there and I handed my phone

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to my ex and I was like, can you just take some photos of me?

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I want to stand inside, like inside this space.

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And so she was taking photos and she's facing me

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and I'm, I'm facing her and behind her, I see these 4

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kids, teenagers, I'd say between 14 and

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16, and they've got their skater

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kids. They've got baggy clothes on, you know, they've got like fun hair

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colors and, uh, wallet chains.

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Yeah. Yeah. Uh, lovely that those things are coming back

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for this new generation. Yes, exactly.

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Um, so I see them and they are

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They literally walk up the side of, of this,

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uh, just forested area. They, they don't, they're not on a path

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there. And there's no one else around either that we,

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it's like, I mean, like, and I don't know if this is,

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this is a real thing, but it certainly seems like this has

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happened and not just me, but when you enter

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into these different areas, you might be going into a different dimension. You know,

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you might not be seeing people around because you've now entered

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into a different frequency of this place. And I've taken

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people there and they've felt that at the same time that I felt that,

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where we look around and now there's no one around in the park

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and it should be pretty full. Yeah. Yeah. So it was like that, except for

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these 4 kids who are now, they did not walk in

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a different direction. I watched them crest the hill and

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beeline it straight towards us. And as they walk

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up, they are like off cam— off camera,

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um, to the left of, of my,

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uh, ex who's filming. She's now filming.

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And, and again, this is like what

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they say, how they say it type of thing.

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They had very articulate

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language. Um, there was no slang there.

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There, there were no derogatory words. There was

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like almost, it really seemed like this heightened intelligence

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within the language of just, you know, good English.

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Yeah. Yeah. And, and so like, and there was 2

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boys and 1 girl and it was, it was a boy,

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girl, boy. And so boy on the end,

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um, he was like, so did you make this?

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And I said, no, I didn't make it, but I think the Sasquatch people made

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it. And at this moment, I'm, you know, I'm already, it's already in my head,

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you're Sasquatch people. Yeah. Yeah. You know,

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um, and that starts off this conversation

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and the, and it's the things that they say. So he said,

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he goes, oh, the Sasquatch people. Are you talking about the lone individual

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of myth and legend who might live deep in the forest? Or are

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you talking about the collective of individuals who are higher dimensional

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beings and who are living here physically amongst

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us? What the fuck? Yeah. What the

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fuck? Wow. I know. I know.

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Holy shit. And I was like, I'm talking about those ones.

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Yeah, exactly. The latter,

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please. You know, and I'm just like, I know, I know you.

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I know who you are. I know what's going on here.

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And, and so, and then like, uh, quickly,

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did it— was a he, right? Yeah. Uh, did he have any

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smirk or anything, or was he just saying it very straight and stoic?

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It was pretty, it was pretty straight and

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stoic. Um, there was like a moment because they

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said, okay, so there was this, and, and again, like it's all in the video

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and I say put on closed captions so you can read because

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they're a little off camera.

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So I was like, hey, you know, no, they're making these structures all

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over the place and they're also making them down by the playground,

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the children's playground. If you want to go down there, there's another one down

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there. And so then the same boy,

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young man, he said, do you think that they're building around

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the playgrounds because the children haven't lost their imagination

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and still understand that they are in control of their reality through their imagination?

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Like, said something like that.

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And I was like, yes, I actually do think that they like being around the

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children for that reason. Wow. Right? So,

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so it was like, they, like, they were, they were setting

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up. They knew what they were going to say. They knew that these messages

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were going to come out, right? And then, then this was the opportunity.

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And so then the other young man, he goes, are you

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documenting this in any type of form? Are you writing this down, maybe keeping

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a journal of events and things that have happened to you?

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And I said, well, I've got a YouTube channel.

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And then at that point, this is a little bit where like the smirk came

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in that you just asked about. The girl, the girl in the middle pulled out

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an iPhone and I was like, yeah, you can, you can look me up.

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Here's my name. And she just kind of looked at me and smirked.

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You know, and, and just kind of like, we know who you are. Yeah,

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yeah, exactly. And, and then like the, the, the other,

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the, the second one who, who said about documenting,

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he was like, maybe you should think about that. He said something like that.

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And, and it was, it was about that brief. And, and they,

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they said their goodbyes and then like took off in a direction. And I pulled

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the phone from, from Yvonne and, and I just looked at her. I was like,

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what fuck? What was that? You know, what the fuck was

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that? That this was, this is, this,

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that happened, you know? Yeah. So I just,

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to put a bow on this,

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um, new slash not new.

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This is not new. This is something that they can do, right? Something that

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they've been in control of. They can control their bodies and shapeshift into anything

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any form that they want, human, animal, orb,

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cloaked, light body, all of, all of the things that

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we can know and who knows what else. Um,

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I recently spoke at, uh, the Sasquatch Summerfest

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in Oakridge, Oregon. It was just a few weeks ago and,

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uh, fantastic event, fantastic event.

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I highly recommend. Um, for everyone

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to check this out next year. It's, it, because it's, it's only going to

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get better. And it was just, it, they knocked it out of the ballpark with,

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with the topics and with everything. Cool. At any rate,

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um, um, shit,

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what was I talking about? Um, let's see.

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Oh, yes. Yes. Yeah. So at the At

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the festival, there was a VIP dinner and, um,

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and some of the speakers were there. I was there. And, uh,

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so was, um, Dr. Simeon Hein.

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Oh yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. We've had him on. Yeah.

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Awesome. Yes. Fascinating man. He was also, uh, speaking at

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the event. Um, lovely, lovely individual,

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lovely human. And what information he,

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he is bringing forth and something that he said at the dinner. Which just,

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again, it's the bow on top. Um,

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we're, we're so like concerned with like this thing

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called disclosure, right? Especially now there seems it's, it's, it's a

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buzzword. We have all these like silly actions happening

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from, you know, the government or these groups or those groups,

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whatever, like the facade and the narrative makers and

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all of that. And, and this is,

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uh, mostly just talking about like, you know,

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the aerial phenomena or, you know, things like

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that. Um, but the real disclosure and what Simeon talked about,

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he was like, the real disclosure is going to

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be about the shapeshifters and that they

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are amongst us and that we are not

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the only ones. And in fact, it's, it's very peppered

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all over the place with non-human sentient beings who

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know how to shapeshift and look like us. That's going to be the disclosure.

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That's what the preparation is for,

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is the integration of that. Interesting.

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Yeah. What a circuitous route to get to that.

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Right? That's crazy. Well, I've been doing some research

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and listening to interviews with people Uh, and we've had a

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couple of people on and are about ready to have someone on, Dana Kipple.

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Cool. Yeah, yeah. And we had Robert Temple on, and he's

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all about the plasma. And there is talk

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of plasma entities and how,

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uh, a way that they manifest in a way that they— we

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sort of collaborate with them with our perceptions is that a

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plasma being will exist and different people will superimpose

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different templates over the top of that. So there'll be one thing and

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5 different people, and those 5 different people might see something completely different,

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which makes me think that it's, it's not a shape-shifting

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situation, it's a perception management situation.

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So when you say shape-shift, I often

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wonder if that's, there's some of that going on too, or those 2

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things are completely different things. What, what is your take?

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I have no idea. I have no answers.

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That's cool to think about though, you know,

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because, because it is something that the Sasquatch can do.

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At least this is something that has, you know, I can say

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it's happened to people I know and me included where,

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um, there will be a single event experience that

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multiple people are experiencing at the same time.

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They're standing next to each other looking at the same thing. Yet each

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person can have a completely different experience in what they see,

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how they experienced it, you know, all the sensory networks.

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So, so then it just comes back to like this incredible

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body we've found ourselves living inside of,

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of whatever magic is going on all

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the time, especially with the way that we perceive the outside of

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ourselves, you know, and how it

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seems to be so easily manipulated by external forces,

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you know, through whatever metaphysical,

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physical, technical way.

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So I don't know, man. Yeah, it's interesting to think

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about. Perhaps we will have the answers someday or get closer to the

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answer. Have you yourself or have you known anybody that

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have gone out of body and had experiences with Sasquatch

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people out of body? There's tons

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of people who are having dream time with

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them. And, um, and, and I've

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definitely heard from multiple sources of Sasquatch communicators

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and, uh, that, that, that's a, uh,

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that's a place that they like to communicate with us because

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it's a, it's an easier place for us to meet

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each other. And, and so, yeah, like that's,

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that's happening all the time. And, um,

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you know, it just, it seems like there's a lot of teaching going on.

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There's, there's a lot of, I think too, like preparation,

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you know, like going from,

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uh, the Patterson-Gimlin film of 1967,

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you know, to where we're at now in 2026 with

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this conversation. And, and, and it's moved from

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Bluff Creek to your local park with shape-shifting,

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you know, and dream, you know, dream inter— uh,

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interaction and, and all these like heightened levels. There's,

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there's, what is this preparation for? We're being prepared for,

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um, For better community, I think,

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you know, for more healing, for, for us to bridge

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the gaps between us and, and this,

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this whole other experience that's happening here too.

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You know, I have no reason to follow

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what's happening, happening in politics. I have no fucking desire.

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Yes. You know what I mean? I have no desire to know

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what like the external narratives are saying because what is

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happening in, in my world is a

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billion times more important. What's happening in your world is

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a billion times more important for us to anchor

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in, you know, how, how do we get to these next

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evolutionary places of our experiences here? You know,

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we do that inner work. We, we heal what needs to heal and

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we build. And, and that doesn't come from all of

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the distraction. You know, exactly. And so it's,

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it's like, if you're ready for, for,

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for the, the student role,

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you know, with these higher dimensional beings to

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get into accordance of, you know,

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these places that we are going. And I don't know

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if that's like fractaled out. I don't know if like there's going to be a

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whole bunch of like different experiences happening for the future or whatever,

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but Maybe. And are Sasquatch a

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part of it? Yeah. You know, are, are the other dimensionals

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a part of it? Of, of, of, of higher consciousness?

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Yes. You know, and they've always been here. They, this isn't

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anything new whatsoever. Yeah.

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But we humans have graduated

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at least to some levels to start getting to those

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next levels. For sure. Yeah.

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Have you heard any of them, or have you heard of anybody hearing of any

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of them mentioning their position

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with, I don't

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know what would be the right way to word it, our governments or our power

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structures in the sense of, there's been a

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heard tale of there's like a

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Sasquatch version of Men in Black. And I haven't heard this in

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a while. I haven't heard this in a long time, but it's like a dude.

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Do you know what I'm talking about? The lumberjack people. Yes. Yeah.

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Yeah, exactly. I know people who have been approached by the

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lumberjack people. No shit. Please tell, please tell everything you know about that.

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I'd love to hear about it. You know, again, are we dealing with like

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this percept— perception bender or shapeshifter type of

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situation? But this was up in, um, in like the Peninsula,

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uh, Islands area, Northern Washington on the

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beach. And, um, like 3 or

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4 of my, my really dear friends who know all

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about this stuff and had plenty of experiences,

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um, they're on the beach. And I think that they were there,

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uh, because there was a sighting, like a Sasquatch sighting, like the

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night before or something like that. And, um, they're also rockhounds,

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beachhounds. And, um, and this was

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like, uh, an empty part of the beach.

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And then like down maybe like half a mile or whatever was like public

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beach. And there was like a lot of people. And then in this direction,

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there was nothing, right? Like it was wild. And they were somewhere like,

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you know, 200 or 300

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feet away from the people and whatnot. But at any rate, they're standing there

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and there was some sort of UFO.

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This is daytime and it's hot. I remember they

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said that it was hot. So it's summertime and daytime

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and something like flies through the air very

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close. It either like, like zips

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out, it like powers up or it does something and then it's, and then it's

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gone. And, and that's, and they see this, they're like, wow. You know,

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what was that? That was cool. And then they look and

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they see in this direction where there's nothing on the beach and

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it's wild. They see all of a sudden some man walking

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towards them and he, and this is hot,

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right? It's like 95 to 100 degrees in at

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like noon, 1 o'clock, whatever, hottest day of the,

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uh, hottest time of the day. And this guy's walking up and he's got

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a red checkered red-black, uh,

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flannel sleeves down, you know,

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and, um, and then hot

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pants, you know, you know, some sort of like full-length pants

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situation. And, and my friend Aaron, like, like he's walking up

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to her and she was like, wow, did you just see that? You should

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see that UFO. It was right there. It just happened.

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And he said something weird like, no, I just got here.

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And then he just

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kept walking and there might've been something else, but I mean, yeah, like that's,

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that's a thing. The lumberjack, like I had to like go down that rabbit hole,

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um, after they had that experience. And then I learned, I was like, holy shit,

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this is a phenomena, you know? So, hey,

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I know like we're, man, we're so not alone.

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Everybody's focused on here. Everybody's focused on humanity. The other

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dimensionals are focused on humanity, right?

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There's something so beautifully important about what we're

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doing in our evolutionary process right now, and it's being noticed.

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It's being encouraged. Yeah.

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I think it's easy for us down here to kind of get lost.

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I don't count myself among them, although I have my days, you know,

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get lost in the maelstrom of bullshit that,

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you know, if you it's unavoidable

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to get some media in your life. If you go into a grocery

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store or somebody's playing a radio somewhere or whatever, it's unavoidable.

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And you realize when you dip into that how much negativity

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is involved in all of that and how much it's like almost,

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it seems like purposefully lowering your frequency

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just to keep you sort of in your own mental cage.

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Yep. So it's easy for

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some people to stop there and go get into this same shit,

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different day mentality and not rise up or

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zoom out, however, whatever metaphor you want to use, and realize

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that there's a lot of really incredible magical stuff that's happening.

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And you have to actually poke your head

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out into the real world though to see it. You're not going to see it

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on a screen anywhere. You're not going to I mean, you might get hints of

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it or you might get prompts from media or

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whatever, but, or from talking to people over electronics

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like we're doing, but you really have to have direct experience with reality

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and the world outside in order to deal with that.

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And unfortunately, well, I think people are kind of circulating

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back into doing that more and getting outside and realizing how

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fleeting this could possibly be if we keep fucking

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up. And either we need

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to savor it now and then say goodbye to it, or realize

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that we need to take the reins and do something about it and bring

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this whole realm into something that's much more harmonious

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than it is right now, or than it seems to be right now.

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It's the inversion wants the

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inversion in this world, wants you to think that what the

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television presents is the truth, you know,

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and, um, and they know all of the tactics to

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pull on all of the strings to get you into vulnerability.

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Um, that's not good vulnerability.

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Exactly. And, um,

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and, and it's like, keep in mind that

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they go to such an extent because the evolutionary process

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of us cannot be stopped. You know? Yeah. They're desperate.

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They're incredibly desperate. And, um, and,

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and again, what, what I see, and maybe it's just my little filtered Bigfoot

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glasses, um, that I have on, but what

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I see within my community, what I see with, within this

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topic and, and the gatherings of people and And

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what is happening, it's like,

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yeah, this place is a bit

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like, be grateful, be fully grateful. Know that what you

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are being presented by the inversion is so

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literally a 180 from what this place

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can offer you if you decide.

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You know, if you did, if you decide to take certain steps and that's

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not like necessarily like those things to,

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uh, open yourself up to the, the, the magic

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in like magic practitioner, like doing

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magic things or, or, or trying to, like, you don't even have

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to do that. It's, it's literally just about like working

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on yourself. Allowing yourself to,

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um, to heal, trusting,

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trusting this life that has been given to us.

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Like, um, like literally the creator

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of everything in everything, in everything and everything

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and everything created you and put you in this fantastical place

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where you can, um, you can focus on the TV if you

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want, Or you can go outside and look at the ways in

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which your walk will put you in

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the communication with God directly, your creator,

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because the speaking to you is happening every moment, you know,

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and, and how grateful we

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can be in maybe this slowed down beautiful

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thing called time. Where we have time.

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We have time to, you know, literally stop and smell

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the rose, you know, because we have the rose here,

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you know, the, the, and the Sasquatch, I think,

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are kind of like the perfect examples of that. They come here.

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They come here because they want to be here. They know

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how to appreciate this place to the max. And what is that

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through? That's from, again, my experiences

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with them, which have been like on this higher vibrational

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place, is, is community,

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is family, you know, the raising of their children

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with the utmost beauty and respect and,

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and like literally the finest example of parenting,

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you know. Being in, in pure harmony with

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nature, being in communion with God, you know?

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Yeah. Yeah. It's like, they're here too.

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Sure. All the bullshit that's going on with all of the things that

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we know how weird it is with files and presidents

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and narratives and things like that. It's like,

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you have these people doing this.

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And they're doing it everywhere. And on top of that,

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you know, they're, they're doing it with us. They're including

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us in the VIP party. You know, if we so choose

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to do the inner work and do the healing and,

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you know, be respectful of ourselves and of each other and of nature

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and, and all of those things. Oh boy. I have 10% battery

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left on my phone. Oh shit. Oh shit. Yeah. Do you have a charger

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or do we just have limited time? Yeah,

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let me get the charger.

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Okay. But then I have to take my headphones out.

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Okay. Oh, I see. So it'll be a different audio situation

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so we can check the audio. Sure, sure. Yeah, we can play it back.

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Okay. But yeah, and then just also

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something along with that, with how they are treating their children,

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And I might've said this the last time we talked, but it just, it needs

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to be said because it needs to be contemplated, um,

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that the Sasquatch people don't have

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generational trauma, right? That's not something

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that, that they pass along. This is, this is,

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um, a wonderful way of showcasing where

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they're at in their evolutionary process, you know,

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that None of those things exist in,

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in, in how they treat each other and,

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and how they treat their children. You know, like that's,

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I don't know. I just, I think that's one of the greatest things to contemplate

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and to know that it can happen and to know that we can do it

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too. Yeah. You know, like we can stop these, these cycles of,

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of, of abuse. We can, we can stop these things. We have

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way more, uh, say in,

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in our personal realities and how these things play out

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and how we get to work hand in hand, you know, with the

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creator. Yeah. How do we create a better world? How do,

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how do we foresee the future of, of humanity?

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Well, I don't know, but I know that if I walk hand in hand with

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God, that I'm helping. I know that like, if I'm working on myself,

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And, you know, I'm helping. Exactly. You know? Yeah.

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And I kind of see that like happening more and more, right? Like everybody's

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doing that. It's good. Okay. Yeah. I'm going to do the switch. Let's make the

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leap. We'll see. What I heard about

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the lumberjacks is that they would always come in pairs

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and they would be not both dressed like lumberjacks. And this

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has been years since I've heard this. I've not heard accounts of this for a

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long, long time. So, But it seemed like they were playing the same sort

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of roles as the Men in Black in the sense of they were trying to

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probe for, like, if somebody had a sighting or somebody

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had some evidence or something like that, these people might visit

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you and then the next morning you wake up and your evidence isn't there anymore.

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And they don't act quite like people. They act like

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people pretending like they think people would act.

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Exactly. I thought that was interesting, but one

58:49.381 --> 58:53.083
of the things I was asking as far as that question was concerned is that,

58:54.490 --> 58:58.432
do they know what— I'm assuming that this shows

58:58.448 --> 59:02.294
that there's some interest in the government in these beings,

59:02.955 --> 59:06.371
and I'm wondering if they know what

59:06.419 --> 59:08.613
the the,

59:09.720 --> 59:12.945
what's the word I'm looking for? Like, what are they wanting? Do they know that

59:13.445 --> 59:16.474
the government wants to contain them? Do they want to exterminate them? Do they want

59:16.974 --> 59:20.501
to study them? Do you know if they're aware of that and what

59:21.001 --> 59:22.923
that is? So there's a,

59:24.078 --> 59:28.234
there's a couple of avenues on this. Um, I can quote Henry Franzoni,

59:29.068 --> 59:33.127
who, um, passed away a couple of years ago, was a wealth of information

59:33.175 --> 59:37.605
about the Sasquatch. Um, he also did like experimental,

59:37.637 --> 59:42.084
like psychedelic jazz in Portland, like in the '80s. So look

59:42.584 --> 59:45.696
up his music too. Okay. Um, and he

59:45.905 --> 59:49.341
was, he was, uh, he was given millions of dollars

59:49.373 --> 59:53.290
in the early '90s to do like Sasquatch research

59:53.790 --> 59:57.689
up in Mount Hood. Um, he also worked with all of the tribes

59:57.801 --> 01:00:00.675
up here and got like information from them.

01:00:01.396 --> 01:00:04.907
And, and he was getting like a lot of information from a lot of places.

01:00:05.003 --> 01:00:08.418
And I think there was like some government stuff too. If you go back into

01:00:08.546 --> 01:00:12.265
the Flash of Beauty YouTube channel and look for Henry Franzoni's,

01:00:12.938 --> 01:00:17.058
um, interview, he's going to talk about this aspect

01:00:17.558 --> 01:00:19.895
of the government and the Sasquatch.

01:00:21.194 --> 01:00:24.336
And there's certainly like a lot of,

01:00:24.640 --> 01:00:28.327
um, there's a lot of stories and there's, there's a lot

01:00:28.827 --> 01:00:32.014
of, especially up in Pacific Northwest with Mount St. Helens and

01:00:32.514 --> 01:00:36.485
like, did they recover bodies? Are they, you know, are they making hybrids? Are they

01:00:36.597 --> 01:00:40.379
doing, you know, genetic stuff? Are they— what,

01:00:40.507 --> 01:00:43.472
what is this role that's happening between them?

01:00:43.873 --> 01:00:47.142
Is, is there more of like, uh, meeting on

01:00:47.254 --> 01:00:51.100
level ground instead of, you know, a captured type of

01:00:51.600 --> 01:00:55.090
situation? Um, I think especially with

01:00:55.590 --> 01:00:58.807
like this last year of the Tabor experiences with

01:00:59.032 --> 01:01:03.496
With like the shapeshifted ones, having that one-on-one

01:01:03.673 --> 01:01:06.820
interaction, like, I don't think there's anything they

01:01:06.980 --> 01:01:10.914
don't know about us, right? I think they know fully and

01:01:11.414 --> 01:01:15.185
completely and probably levels above what

01:01:15.554 --> 01:01:19.151
your best conspiracy person out there in the world

01:01:19.344 --> 01:01:23.486
knows about everything, right? And Henry

01:01:23.535 --> 01:01:27.227
said, He goes, where, he summed

01:01:27.727 --> 01:01:30.389
it up with this joke and he said, um,

01:01:31.224 --> 01:01:34.483
where in the United States has the highest,

01:01:34.981 --> 01:01:38.047
most dense population of the Sasquatch people?

01:01:39.909 --> 01:01:43.312
Uh, I would say Washington State.

01:01:43.409 --> 01:01:47.053
He said under DC. Under DC?

01:01:47.823 --> 01:01:51.114
Holy shit. That was, that was an, you know,

01:01:51.130 --> 01:01:54.806
that was an interesting thing that he decided to say at the

01:01:55.306 --> 01:01:59.082
very end of that interview. Wow. So they're being studied

01:01:59.307 --> 01:02:01.830
or being— or they're,

01:02:03.164 --> 01:02:07.701
they might be like letting us

01:02:07.765 --> 01:02:11.563
know, yeah, you've gone too far. You can't

01:02:12.063 --> 01:02:15.769
do that. Or here's, you know, they, they might

01:02:15.801 --> 01:02:19.032
be policing in some sort of way to include like

01:02:19.113 --> 01:02:22.839
the star people too. You know, or the ones that are living underground or like

01:02:22.888 --> 01:02:26.375
whatever the fuck is happening in the forest at 4 o'clock in the morning when

01:02:26.875 --> 01:02:31.077
the Sasquatch and the light orbs and doors of light are opening and

01:02:31.271 --> 01:02:34.455
portals are opening. Like, who knows? Yeah.

01:02:34.907 --> 01:02:37.816
You know? Yeah. Yeah. And then like,

01:02:39.636 --> 01:02:43.132
are, do, do they not intervene because they know it is

01:02:43.263 --> 01:02:47.001
more of like a facade? You know, I don't know.

01:02:47.129 --> 01:02:51.252
I just, I can't take any of it seriously anymore now

01:02:51.381 --> 01:02:55.054
that I know that this is, this is a bigger reality

01:02:55.311 --> 01:02:59.595
than, than all of that government stuff and all of that

01:02:59.659 --> 01:03:02.771
world stage stuff. Yes. Theater, theater. Yeah.

01:03:03.012 --> 01:03:06.958
Because, because what I have found, right,

01:03:07.343 --> 01:03:10.792
in, in, in this, I had all that stuff

01:03:11.292 --> 01:03:13.582
happening in Mount Tabor. Surrounded by Portland,

01:03:14.399 --> 01:03:18.293
um, city and houses and neighborhoods and people.

01:03:19.142 --> 01:03:22.747
That's happening here too. And I don't think it's happening just

01:03:23.247 --> 01:03:27.249
because I moved here, right? Like, I think that they

01:03:27.458 --> 01:03:31.431
have, they're so integrated in,

01:03:31.640 --> 01:03:35.389
in places. Like, I think it would be shocking to

01:03:35.405 --> 01:03:39.010
really like know that number or know

01:03:39.510 --> 01:03:42.681
that percentage. Because in this, in this little,

01:03:43.658 --> 01:03:47.073
little one-horse town city that I'm in, um,

01:03:47.265 --> 01:03:50.311
that is also like a massive, uh,

01:03:50.856 --> 01:03:54.639
hotspot for tourism all year round, all year

01:03:55.139 --> 01:03:58.983
round. There is something happening every weekend with

01:03:59.448 --> 01:04:02.926
hundreds to thousands of tourists in,

01:04:03.359 --> 01:04:06.484
in, in the city center with the courthouse in the

01:04:06.984 --> 01:04:09.387
center. This place is all mud flooded. Like it's,

01:04:09.531 --> 01:04:12.514
it's, it's, um,

01:04:13.332 --> 01:04:16.571
it's an, it's an old Western town. I guess I could say it's Prescott.

01:04:16.700 --> 01:04:20.436
It's Prescott, Arizona. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So there's just,

01:04:20.452 --> 01:04:23.900
there's a ton that's going on here energetically anyways,

01:04:24.526 --> 01:04:29.016
but there is, there's a creek that runs right

01:04:29.516 --> 01:04:33.169
through the city center. It's blocks away from the courthouse. Interesting.

01:04:33.428 --> 01:04:37.149
And my friend and I have had tons of

01:04:37.649 --> 01:04:40.466
interaction with the Sasquatch people at this creek.

01:04:40.871 --> 01:04:44.721
Huh. Right? Crazy. We have had interaction

01:04:44.996 --> 01:04:48.585
and I have seen signs of the Sasquatch people at the courthouse.

01:04:49.439 --> 01:04:53.034
Wow. That's incredible. Right?

01:04:53.470 --> 01:04:56.722
You're in the right place. Yes. They knew. And like I

01:04:56.738 --> 01:04:59.943
said, you know, like the whole cotton story, they knew I was going to be

01:04:59.959 --> 01:05:03.396
here. Um, I think it's very important for me

01:05:03.896 --> 01:05:07.655
to be here and to also like openly talk about how

01:05:08.155 --> 01:05:11.808
close they really are, you know, and how much they know

01:05:11.920 --> 01:05:15.754
about us. Again, like, I don't think we're dealing with anything

01:05:16.495 --> 01:05:21.943
close to, you know, um, a wild

01:05:22.008 --> 01:05:25.748
person out in nature that

01:05:26.248 --> 01:05:29.862
has limited knowledge about humans only

01:05:29.958 --> 01:05:33.316
through the contact that they have with hikers or campers.

01:05:34.215 --> 01:05:38.070
You know, it's like they don't know, they know everything about

01:05:38.086 --> 01:05:41.797
us. They know everything about us and they're amongst us and they,

01:05:42.568 --> 01:05:45.443
you know, where do we go from there? I, I,

01:05:46.102 --> 01:05:48.880
uh, one of the things that's mentioned a lot by,

01:05:49.716 --> 01:05:53.748
uh, people within this community is that if there is ever like

01:05:53.892 --> 01:05:57.054
an official recognition by government,

01:05:57.680 --> 01:06:01.018
they might take that opportunity to completely

01:06:01.050 --> 01:06:04.581
shut down all the national forests so

01:06:05.081 --> 01:06:08.208
that there's no human access to any of our national forests.

01:06:08.272 --> 01:06:11.225
And they'll be like, yeah, well, they live there and now that's, you know,

01:06:12.027 --> 01:06:15.477
no one can interact, you know, and that would

01:06:15.977 --> 01:06:19.104
be dumb. And, you know, I hope it doesn't ever come

01:06:19.604 --> 01:06:21.607
to that. And I think if we do get to that place of like,

01:06:22.089 --> 01:06:25.810
exposure and disclosure and

01:06:25.987 --> 01:06:29.291
integration within humanity, they wouldn't allow it either.

01:06:29.772 --> 01:06:33.638
You know, we would all be at a higher place. Exactly. It doesn't seem

01:06:34.138 --> 01:06:37.328
like they would be containable anyway, unless they, you know, there's some

01:06:37.392 --> 01:06:40.969
tech that we don't know about. Yeah. Yeah. It would just be us not being

01:06:41.097 --> 01:06:45.348
able to go and play in the forest. Yeah. They'd still be everywhere else.

01:06:45.653 --> 01:06:48.669
Yes. Yeah, exactly. The wall would be to keep us out, not to keep them

01:06:48.717 --> 01:06:52.077
in. Correct. You mentioned

01:06:52.190 --> 01:06:56.599
that there is a lack of generational trauma, but something

01:06:56.696 --> 01:07:00.063
about, and it's just a feeling that

01:07:00.097 --> 01:07:03.901
I get, but something about their,

01:07:06.595 --> 01:07:08.682
I'll say role for lack of a better word,

01:07:11.584 --> 01:07:16.398
in the greater interactive

01:07:16.898 --> 01:07:20.573
reality of the planet that we live on, it seems like

01:07:21.520 --> 01:07:25.438
one might think that there's some rift or something happened that caused

01:07:25.454 --> 01:07:28.746
them to go underground or to separate

01:07:29.246 --> 01:07:32.712
themselves or go like, fuck this party. I don't

01:07:32.760 --> 01:07:36.614
want to have anything to do with it. I'm dropping out. And then they lived

01:07:37.114 --> 01:07:37.722
off-grid, literally.

01:07:40.146 --> 01:07:43.841
Anything like that ever happened? Or have they always lived

01:07:44.341 --> 01:07:48.966
on the fringes? Or is it more, not that they're living necessarily physically

01:07:48.982 --> 01:07:53.077
on our fringes, but they're living perceptually

01:07:53.270 --> 01:07:57.142
in our fringes? Like they're around, we just can't see them or can't perceive

01:07:57.642 --> 01:08:01.456
them. Right. There's a couple of ways of looking at

01:08:01.956 --> 01:08:05.750
this. You know, I want to know what happened to

01:08:06.250 --> 01:08:09.379
humanity. That ripped us away from, from our,

01:08:10.391 --> 01:08:14.119
um, truer and more pure connection with nature

01:08:14.183 --> 01:08:17.950
and all the nature spirits and elementals and the other beings and

01:08:17.966 --> 01:08:20.548
all of that. I don't think it was, uh,

01:08:23.760 --> 01:08:26.280
necessarily them going, you know,

01:08:27.577 --> 01:08:31.191
we're not going to stay at the party, but we might've had something

01:08:31.288 --> 01:08:34.675
happen to us to where we were forcibly taken from the party, you know?

01:08:35.437 --> 01:08:38.037
Um, and that connection was severed.

01:08:39.369 --> 01:08:42.241
There's also something that Tom,

01:08:42.674 --> 01:08:46.317
again, my friend Tom Cantrell, who passed away, he, he mentioned this often

01:08:46.382 --> 01:08:47.938
because people would ask that question.

01:08:48.516 --> 01:08:51.228
And what his teacher said,

01:08:52.127 --> 01:08:55.016
um, pretty much was like, you know,

01:08:55.096 --> 01:08:58.642
when, when your people began to manipulate,

01:08:59.605 --> 01:09:03.518
or he said, he goes, our people evolved

01:09:03.971 --> 01:09:07.346
through allowing nature to evolve.

01:09:07.507 --> 01:09:10.766
And we, and we evolved with nature in,

01:09:12.004 --> 01:09:15.700
in a harmonious way. He said

01:09:16.200 --> 01:09:19.854
that your people and where the rift kind of occurred between their

01:09:19.984 --> 01:09:23.277
people and our people was when we started

01:09:23.391 --> 01:09:27.933
manipulating nature in order to fit our perceived

01:09:28.131 --> 01:09:31.310
evolution. So instead of doing it naturally,

01:09:31.728 --> 01:09:35.887
you know, we, we, we took ourselves out of nature and,

01:09:36.866 --> 01:09:40.414
you know, created the 2x4 and,

01:09:40.639 --> 01:09:44.300
you know, yeah, yeah, totally makes sense. Yeah. That's,

01:09:44.669 --> 01:09:48.459
that's, that's one that, that's the perspective

01:09:48.507 --> 01:09:51.317
that's coming straight from, from, from a Sasquatch.

01:09:52.457 --> 01:09:56.138
And then You know, I just also have the question,

01:09:56.251 --> 01:09:58.240
like, what happened to us?

01:10:00.052 --> 01:10:03.495
What happened to where we not so long ago had

01:10:03.544 --> 01:10:07.160
so much beauty and there's been a

01:10:07.241 --> 01:10:11.018
feverish effort over the last 100 or

01:10:11.518 --> 01:10:15.454
so years to erase as much as possible of the not

01:10:15.519 --> 01:10:17.553
so distant past, you know?

01:10:19.594 --> 01:10:22.982
And who, who was that community? Who was that

01:10:23.482 --> 01:10:25.904
humanity that, um,

01:10:27.140 --> 01:10:30.753
were creating the cities that they did? I don't know. Like, I've just,

01:10:31.941 --> 01:10:35.233
I've, I've, I have so many questions and it makes

01:10:35.733 --> 01:10:39.151
sense to me that like, maybe we weren't separated

01:10:39.343 --> 01:10:43.084
that long ago and that it was more of

01:10:43.181 --> 01:10:46.618
a more recent

01:10:47.035 --> 01:10:50.151
separation. And then, um,

01:10:50.971 --> 01:10:53.846
if that is the case, like, or even if it isn't the case,

01:10:54.585 --> 01:10:57.299
like it doesn't, it, it's not taking us very long,

01:10:57.492 --> 01:11:01.203
especially now. It's almost like quadrupled

01:11:01.703 --> 01:11:05.620
in speed and it continues to gain speed in the ways that like

01:11:06.005 --> 01:11:09.298
we are merging back in with this

01:11:09.603 --> 01:11:14.146
higher knowing higher expression

01:11:14.659 --> 01:11:18.350
and experience of humans, you know,

01:11:18.912 --> 01:11:23.068
and, and then our connection with them and our connection with, with the elementals.

01:11:23.887 --> 01:11:25.925
Um, because it, yeah, it's like,

01:11:27.080 --> 01:11:30.868
yeah, sure. Well, there's probably

01:11:31.368 --> 01:11:34.479
more Sasquatch sightings and experiences than ever before, you know,

01:11:34.832 --> 01:11:38.552
or at least we can say For the last 30, 40 years,

01:11:38.584 --> 01:11:41.372
like it really has ramped up, you know?

01:11:42.013 --> 01:11:45.603
Um, but then it's like, people are having experiences

01:11:45.715 --> 01:11:49.064
with the fairy realms. Yes. People are having experiences with the

01:11:49.564 --> 01:11:52.670
gnomes. People are having experiences with the elementals, you know,

01:11:52.686 --> 01:11:56.900
like everyone is coming back online or on

01:11:56.948 --> 01:12:00.762
the flip side, we are coming back online. Yes. You know, like our,

01:12:00.842 --> 01:12:02.989
we, we, our eyes are growing.

01:12:04.512 --> 01:12:09.118
We are starting to recognize our

01:12:09.618 --> 01:12:13.169
truer environment. Yeah,

01:12:13.249 --> 01:12:15.649
I think it really says something too.

01:12:16.165 --> 01:12:18.404
Sometimes I think media fucked everything up.

01:12:19.451 --> 01:12:22.579
Once we started as a group reflecting,

01:12:23.081 --> 01:12:26.721
looking at our own reflection, we became fascinated by that.

01:12:27.287 --> 01:12:31.443
And we became so fascinated by it that it sort of drew us further

01:12:31.943 --> 01:12:35.951
and further into this materialist reductionist viewpoint.

01:12:36.496 --> 01:12:40.154
So once we just start seeing or thinking

01:12:40.507 --> 01:12:44.149
and perceiving that the only things that exist are what I can weigh,

01:12:44.501 --> 01:12:48.255
what I can measure, what I can see, what I can touch, it's like then

01:12:48.432 --> 01:12:52.106
you start knocking things off the menu that have been on the menu for tens

01:12:52.138 --> 01:12:55.234
of thousands of years. Number one,

01:12:55.731 --> 01:12:59.424
God. Yeah. For instance, yes. Yeah, who's going

01:12:59.489 --> 01:13:03.327
to— there's no proof of God, so yeah, we're going to mark God off our

01:13:03.827 --> 01:13:07.236
list. And then it all crumbles

01:13:07.575 --> 01:13:11.277
after that. You can easily

01:13:12.279 --> 01:13:15.556
justify taking your place out of

01:13:15.685 --> 01:13:21.768
or exemplifying yourself out of the circle of life if

01:13:21.865 --> 01:13:27.438
you can disavow all of these things that people have been centering

01:13:27.470 --> 01:13:31.112
their lives around for generations and generations. So I think it's

01:13:31.612 --> 01:13:35.174
just been a gradual separation, and it happens so quickly.

01:13:35.385 --> 01:13:38.308
And I think one of the reasons I blame media too is because I think

01:13:38.373 --> 01:13:40.923
media can quicken that process.

01:13:41.778 --> 01:13:45.102
It makes it easier for us to

01:13:45.602 --> 01:13:49.234
leapfrog into completely different realities that disregard everything

01:13:49.283 --> 01:13:52.768
that came before it. It's like we're

01:13:52.912 --> 01:13:56.367
almost as generations put against each

01:13:56.867 --> 01:14:00.231
other. He's a Gen Zer, he's a Gen Xer,

01:14:01.432 --> 01:14:04.564
boomer, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:14:04.937 --> 01:14:08.249
So there's no continuum.

01:14:08.410 --> 01:14:14.506
We're not hearing the same stories that our great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents

01:14:15.006 --> 01:14:18.257
were telling everybody. So yeah, it's just,

01:14:18.289 --> 01:14:22.057
I think it's just been a gradual process of just separating ourselves and

01:14:22.393 --> 01:14:25.984
thinking that we're the shit because we come up with

01:14:26.484 --> 01:14:30.136
all these great technical gadgets and stuff like that. But we're

01:14:30.152 --> 01:14:33.423
not because we're losing track of things that are much more important than

01:14:33.455 --> 01:14:36.917
those things that are fun to click and play around with and look at.

01:14:37.046 --> 01:14:41.037
But we've kind of spiritually

01:14:41.470 --> 01:14:44.681
atrophied. Yeah.

01:14:44.761 --> 01:14:46.945
Does that make sense?

01:14:50.060 --> 01:14:53.963
You know, it's part of the weapons

01:14:57.046 --> 01:14:59.503
of the war against humans,

01:15:00.579 --> 01:15:02.185
right?

01:15:04.899 --> 01:15:07.372
And the severing of family,

01:15:07.805 --> 01:15:11.371
the destruction of family, the introduction

01:15:11.804 --> 01:15:14.165
of trauma, you know,

01:15:14.359 --> 01:15:17.993
especially if it can be generational and just like, you know,

01:15:18.138 --> 01:15:22.160
that it's how you chop

01:15:22.741 --> 01:15:25.285
the tree down. And, um,

01:15:26.858 --> 01:15:30.180
if you think about media, which is so

01:15:30.680 --> 01:15:33.032
close to Medea, right? Like it's,

01:15:34.163 --> 01:15:37.685
and wasn't she like the goddess of lies or something

01:15:37.782 --> 01:15:40.076
like that? Yeah. Yeah. That would totally make sense. Yes.

01:15:41.406 --> 01:15:42.836
Right. And,

01:15:45.295 --> 01:15:49.344
um, so they're doing

01:15:49.440 --> 01:15:52.533
exactly what they were, what they mean to do.

01:15:52.824 --> 01:15:57.115
They're really good at what they're, what they're here to do, what media

01:15:57.131 --> 01:15:58.728
is here, what media is here to do.

01:15:59.600 --> 01:16:03.106
And, and it has everything to do with like

01:16:03.606 --> 01:16:06.504
the destruction of the individual and the destruction of the family.

01:16:07.257 --> 01:16:10.372
And I've recently kind of like been watching movies

01:16:10.709 --> 01:16:13.712
and it's not something that I do, um,

01:16:14.081 --> 01:16:17.196
very often. I'm not, I don't watch a lot of movies.

01:16:17.630 --> 01:16:21.371
I've just been, I've been in a Bigfoot world, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Um,

01:16:21.548 --> 01:16:24.920
I'm just, I'm, I'm, my focus has been elsewhere.

01:16:25.160 --> 01:16:28.918
Yes. But it's been really cool to see what's been going

01:16:29.014 --> 01:16:32.033
on, you know? And, um,

01:16:32.562 --> 01:16:36.491
And, and something that I've noticed, uh, not just recently,

01:16:36.651 --> 01:16:40.035
but say like over the past 10 years of, of just like

01:16:40.644 --> 01:16:44.814
really watching what gets, um, pushed there,

01:16:44.894 --> 01:16:50.010
there are the themes, right? And one of the biggest themes is like drinking

01:16:51.325 --> 01:16:54.901
hard alcohol, like it's Gatorade.

01:16:55.414 --> 01:16:59.247
You know what I mean? Like, keep your eye out for that. In your

01:16:59.263 --> 01:17:02.715
movies, in your television shows, you know,

01:17:02.876 --> 01:17:06.136
they, um, it's the subtle things. It's the things

01:17:06.168 --> 01:17:09.540
in the background that are influencing. And, um,

01:17:09.684 --> 01:17:13.281
and it really, there's such an emphasis on,

01:17:14.019 --> 01:17:18.258
um, self-medicating with alcohol and,

01:17:18.435 --> 01:17:22.353
um, having bad, like bad communication with

01:17:22.786 --> 01:17:25.681
people. Um, And,

01:17:26.348 --> 01:17:29.924
and yeah, so yeah,

01:17:30.005 --> 01:17:33.402
they're, they're interesting tools. Um,

01:17:33.434 --> 01:17:36.938
use them in good ways. Always use the tools.

01:17:37.115 --> 01:17:40.586
Anything could be used in a good way, I guess. We can learn and grow

01:17:41.086 --> 01:17:43.076
from, from silly media.

01:17:45.180 --> 01:17:48.982
Um, but, uh, you know, and again, it's like, we're, we are the storytellers,

01:17:49.242 --> 01:17:51.515
you know, that, that, that's our, that's our birthright.

01:17:53.020 --> 01:17:56.183
That's the first thing we started doing around the fire.

01:17:57.922 --> 01:18:01.885
This is how the heart communicates to

01:18:02.368 --> 01:18:06.074
the one in front of you. And so the sacredness

01:18:06.203 --> 01:18:10.207
of that storytelling should never

01:18:10.741 --> 01:18:14.813
be forgotten within the

01:18:15.313 --> 01:18:18.375
inversion of our media. You know,

01:18:19.033 --> 01:18:22.596
it's like, yeah, you guys, you're really good at being

01:18:22.708 --> 01:18:26.126
crappy. You're not very good at like the creative

01:18:26.640 --> 01:18:29.336
force within humans and their storytelling.

01:18:29.754 --> 01:18:33.140
Yeah, exactly. I, um,

01:18:33.301 --> 01:18:37.185
my wife and I, Hunter, uh, she just graduated screenwriting

01:18:37.233 --> 01:18:40.523
school and I just finished my first year, getting ready to go into my second

01:18:41.023 --> 01:18:44.929
year. Fantastic. Yes. Uh, And one of the stories that has

01:18:45.429 --> 01:18:48.300
been kicking around in my head, potential stories, is,

01:18:49.930 --> 01:18:53.254
and I don't have, it's just an idea of a perception to

01:18:53.754 --> 01:18:57.286
launch from. I don't have a story arc or anything like that, but it's set

01:18:57.786 --> 01:18:59.990
from a Sasquatch person's point of view.

01:19:02.225 --> 01:19:06.507
And so there's not going to be any English language,

01:19:06.588 --> 01:19:10.362
any language, earthly language that we know, in the

01:19:10.862 --> 01:19:14.731
movie. And I would love to

01:19:15.231 --> 01:19:18.826
use it as a tool to have instances

01:19:18.939 --> 01:19:22.540
where humanity is observed from a distance,

01:19:22.653 --> 01:19:26.739
the distance that that would provide, and maybe

01:19:27.076 --> 01:19:31.399
not even a physical distance, but just a dimensional

01:19:31.415 --> 01:19:35.315
distance of just witnessing what humans do and how

01:19:35.432 --> 01:19:39.592
humans behave. And not like humans good or

01:19:39.640 --> 01:19:42.688
humans bad, Sasquatch good. I don't mean to make any kind of

01:19:43.188 --> 01:19:47.564
statement like that, but more like using this Sasquatch

01:19:47.580 --> 01:19:53.098
person as a, as a, an objective viewpoint

01:19:53.259 --> 01:19:57.397
on our behavior and also use that situation

01:19:57.526 --> 01:20:01.135
to take parts of stories and

01:20:01.635 --> 01:20:05.574
accounts that I've heard from different people throughout the years. And educate

01:20:05.590 --> 01:20:09.891
people on where they may be coming from.

01:20:11.034 --> 01:20:14.406
So it would be interesting to throw, once I develop that idea a little bit

01:20:14.471 --> 01:20:18.730
more, to throw it out amongst some of you folk

01:20:19.134 --> 01:20:22.347
and to see what you have to say about it, how you would tweak it,

01:20:24.475 --> 01:20:27.573
just to have you give notes on it. I would appreciate

01:20:28.073 --> 01:20:30.979
that if I ever get to that point with that story. But I like that

01:20:31.479 --> 01:20:35.966
idea. Um, yeah. So simultaneously educating people about Sasquatch

01:20:36.466 --> 01:20:39.575
and also giving us a viewpoint on ourselves that, yeah,

01:20:40.136 --> 01:20:43.023
allows us to go, what the fuck?

01:20:43.343 --> 01:20:46.727
Well, we do some crazy shit. Like, what are,

01:20:46.791 --> 01:20:49.101
what are we, what's, what are we doing? You know?

01:20:50.239 --> 01:20:53.655
So yeah, that's my idea. I love it. I love it.

01:20:54.088 --> 01:20:56.832
Thank you. That's fantastic. And, um,

01:20:58.268 --> 01:21:01.189
you know, I, I just, I, I think it's,

01:21:02.218 --> 01:21:06.945
I think it's so beautiful how they do interact

01:21:07.445 --> 01:21:11.972
with us, which is just allowing us to

01:21:12.472 --> 01:21:15.934
fuck up. You know, like, I, I think it's

01:21:16.434 --> 01:21:20.045
one of the most beautiful things that, that they could ever do is

01:21:20.161 --> 01:21:24.040
to just allow us to be human. And, and to have that

01:21:24.152 --> 01:21:28.278
full experience. Um, you know, we have a specific

01:21:28.342 --> 01:21:31.826
type of flavor in, in our lifetimes right now.

01:21:32.597 --> 01:21:35.824
I dig it. I love it. Like we've got really good music.

01:21:36.049 --> 01:21:39.789
We've got really good, like art is coming back online in ways

01:21:40.046 --> 01:21:43.241
that is just beautiful. I love the fact that you and

01:21:43.273 --> 01:21:47.126
Hunter will start making movies, right? Like, like the

01:21:47.190 --> 01:21:50.930
creative force that is about to enter into this

01:21:50.978 --> 01:21:54.702
world where we are all

01:21:54.990 --> 01:21:59.211
the creatives are getting to some

01:21:59.307 --> 01:22:03.287
places of like, we've done some foundation building

01:22:04.363 --> 01:22:08.359
and now we're going to start building like on

01:22:08.375 --> 01:22:11.520
top of that. Exactly. And like,

01:22:12.082 --> 01:22:15.163
I, you know, is art going to save the world? I think it will.

01:22:16.173 --> 01:22:19.267
You know, especially with, um,

01:22:19.763 --> 01:22:23.546
with us right now, with, with, with this core group

01:22:23.610 --> 01:22:26.928
of, of, of humanity that gets to,

01:22:28.355 --> 01:22:32.025
uh, do stuff, say, for the next like 50 years, you know,

01:22:32.907 --> 01:22:36.481
or longer, because who knows what's going to happen with like lifespan,

01:22:37.235 --> 01:22:40.424
lifespans and, and, and ascensions.

01:22:40.601 --> 01:22:43.341
And, you know, you know, ask the question too, like,

01:22:45.489 --> 01:22:48.343
Do we, do we ever really experience death? You know, like how,

01:22:48.792 --> 01:22:52.655
how does one actually experience death when you're an infinite being, you know,

01:22:52.863 --> 01:22:56.406
creation of, of, of the ultimate

01:22:56.906 --> 01:23:00.862
creator of everything? Like this ride that we're on is

01:23:00.975 --> 01:23:04.293
so big. And that's another reason why

01:23:04.325 --> 01:23:07.611
I think the Sasquatch just watch, you know,

01:23:07.851 --> 01:23:10.881
like they see the bigger picture. They know the bigger picture. You know, and,

01:23:10.914 --> 01:23:15.532
and however we found ourselves here in this wonderful matrixy

01:23:15.564 --> 01:23:19.300
place where you can play with reality

01:23:19.349 --> 01:23:22.764
through the way that you are participating with

01:23:23.264 --> 01:23:27.158
it, and it can get as mundane and

01:23:27.334 --> 01:23:31.071
vanilla as you want, or you can spiral

01:23:31.504 --> 01:23:35.369
upwards into, you know, just literally

01:23:35.449 --> 01:23:38.437
different dimensional experiences while still,

01:23:39.285 --> 01:23:41.717
while still in this, in this vessel,

01:23:42.630 --> 01:23:46.912
you know, um, it's beautiful.

01:23:47.399 --> 01:23:51.318
It's beautiful. Life is good. The Sasquatch remind us

01:23:51.367 --> 01:23:54.714
of that. Um, pick up your trash when you go out into the

01:23:55.214 --> 01:23:56.945
nature places, you know, be a good steward.

01:23:58.994 --> 01:24:02.546
Um, you know, uh, how, how do we speak to each

01:24:03.046 --> 01:24:06.364
other? How do, how do we hold respect for ourselves

01:24:06.396 --> 01:24:09.009
and for each other on the daily. Um,

01:24:10.387 --> 01:24:13.929
all these little things we can do, those are the things that are

01:24:14.429 --> 01:24:17.616
the biggest things. Absolutely. Yeah. And, and I think they show

01:24:18.116 --> 01:24:20.469
that so beautifully,

01:24:20.741 --> 01:24:24.812
especially like when we're doing intentional camping and

01:24:24.845 --> 01:24:28.820
it's like these small little things that happen that

01:24:29.320 --> 01:24:34.895
are so impactful and carry like the biggest revelations

01:24:35.151 --> 01:24:38.310
of spirit. Yeah.

01:24:38.759 --> 01:24:42.799
Well, I was going to ask you too, there's been 2 campouts at least

01:24:43.969 --> 01:24:47.592
that have happened since the last time that we talked. You invited us to the

01:24:48.092 --> 01:24:51.584
last year's one, and it was totally bad timing because of the school

01:24:51.664 --> 01:24:55.560
residency that we had to do. But did anything cool

01:24:55.752 --> 01:24:58.558
happen at either of them? Absolutely.

01:24:58.654 --> 01:25:01.764
Yeah. Tell us some of the best things or some of

01:25:02.264 --> 01:25:05.536
the most standout things that happened? Incredible,

01:25:05.938 --> 01:25:09.791
incredible things. The one that I invited you and Hunter to

01:25:10.450 --> 01:25:13.789
was outside in Santa Fe, outside of Santa Fe, New Mexico. It was

01:25:13.886 --> 01:25:16.021
going to be on that land that I was going to build the tiny house

01:25:16.150 --> 01:25:19.329
on. Okay, back, back 40. And,

01:25:19.666 --> 01:25:22.107
um, and it was incredible.

01:25:22.556 --> 01:25:26.490
And, uh, there was maybe like 5, 5 or 6 of

01:25:26.990 --> 01:25:31.757
us. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 core

01:25:31.885 --> 01:25:37.071
group. Um, there was also, we did this amazing

01:25:37.184 --> 01:25:40.475
ceremony, like on this first night or second night.

01:25:41.182 --> 01:25:44.345
Um, artist Sarah Turner,

01:25:44.714 --> 01:25:47.380
check her out. She does, um,

01:25:48.263 --> 01:25:50.960
projection work in,

01:25:51.619 --> 01:25:55.452
uh, in in homage

01:25:55.484 --> 01:25:59.346
to the dolphins. She's, she's super connected to the

01:25:59.846 --> 01:26:03.463
dolphins. Um, she had some incredible healings,

01:26:03.800 --> 01:26:06.588
straight up healings and communication with dolphins.

01:26:07.165 --> 01:26:10.610
And then after, you know, having that experience, she really just like

01:26:11.110 --> 01:26:15.016
devoted herself to this like dolphin connection. And part

01:26:15.516 --> 01:26:19.150
of that is through her art. And so she, um, we had

01:26:19.182 --> 01:26:22.835
this, we had live music, we had this pool. Of water

01:26:22.867 --> 01:26:27.614
at the top of this, uh, arroyo. And we

01:26:28.114 --> 01:26:31.350
had UFOs flying over. The Sasquatch were making

01:26:31.382 --> 01:26:34.605
themselves known. Um, this is

01:26:34.653 --> 01:26:38.421
also, uh, documented in a video. So I highly suggest

01:26:38.921 --> 01:26:42.927
going back and seeing, um, that one. It's, it's called The Sasquatch People

01:26:43.427 --> 01:26:45.316
and the Dolphins of the Desert.

01:26:46.518 --> 01:26:49.613
And you can see some of Sarah Turner's installation.

01:26:50.620 --> 01:26:54.301
Uvee, I think his name is, U-V-E-E. He's a

01:26:54.801 --> 01:26:57.999
musician. He did this freestyle set that

01:26:58.499 --> 01:27:01.225
was just off the charts. And, um,

01:27:02.256 --> 01:27:06.232
and so all those things happened. I had a Sasquatch,

01:27:06.297 --> 01:27:09.899
like a child baby Sasquatch that

01:27:10.174 --> 01:27:14.067
showed up in my tent. It was like on like night

01:27:14.229 --> 01:27:17.435
3. Or, or 4 or something. I forget.

01:27:17.756 --> 01:27:21.299
We might've been out there like 5 days. And it was like

01:27:21.363 --> 01:27:24.553
the second to last night. And then the last night and like the second to

01:27:25.053 --> 01:27:28.000
last night, I was hearing this, you know,

01:27:28.016 --> 01:27:31.543
shuffling around the tent and also

01:27:32.043 --> 01:27:35.920
hearing fart noises. That was

01:27:36.016 --> 01:27:40.248
a lot of fun. And then the next night I was hearing again,

01:27:40.360 --> 01:27:44.617
like these these shufflings. And I had

01:27:45.117 --> 01:27:49.565
a solar light that was pointing on one of the guy lines

01:27:49.903 --> 01:27:53.284
of the tent so that I wouldn't trip over it when I was trying

01:27:53.316 --> 01:27:56.961
to get inside the tent. So that was kind of like hitting the tent and

01:27:57.461 --> 01:27:59.067
illuminating the interior of the tent.

01:28:01.921 --> 01:28:05.669
And so I was laying on the cot and I'm hearing this shuffling and then

01:28:06.169 --> 01:28:09.655
I hear it inside. And then my eyes are open, but I'm staring,

01:28:10.072 --> 01:28:13.518
you know, straight up and right next

01:28:14.018 --> 01:28:16.901
to my head, a little baby pops up,

01:28:17.782 --> 01:28:20.235
pops up and then pops back down.

01:28:20.812 --> 01:28:24.147
I go up into a sitting state and I'm just like, what the

01:28:24.195 --> 01:28:27.016
fuck? And then there's nothing.

01:28:27.144 --> 01:28:30.863
Like, I don't see anything like, you know, in the tent anymore.

01:28:31.232 --> 01:28:34.582
So whether they cloaked or they you know, went through the tent or did

01:28:34.614 --> 01:28:38.267
whatever. But physically, one absolutely

01:28:38.299 --> 01:28:41.568
popped up like this and then came back down. They gave

01:28:42.068 --> 01:28:45.045
us a, uh, a wonderful, um,

01:28:45.494 --> 01:28:48.811
like treasure hunt along the land.

01:28:48.955 --> 01:28:53.121
And that's also documented. Um, there was also

01:28:53.521 --> 01:28:57.703
the, I, this was, um, this was near

01:28:58.203 --> 01:29:01.889
my birthday. Like my birthday was going to happen while we were gonna be there.

01:29:02.418 --> 01:29:05.421
But my friends didn't know that when, um,

01:29:05.855 --> 01:29:08.680
when we were just planning this. I, I had the idea,

01:29:09.628 --> 01:29:12.695
uh, like a year in advance. It's like, I gotta come back here.

01:29:12.759 --> 01:29:16.211
I'm feeling this urge. I have to make this camp out. I planned it

01:29:16.711 --> 01:29:20.161
for a year. I invited certain people and, uh,

01:29:20.803 --> 01:29:24.288
and certain people came, right? And, um,

01:29:28.060 --> 01:29:31.630
So it had nothing to do with my birthday,

01:29:32.177 --> 01:29:35.313
but I wanted it to be near the autumn equinox.

01:29:35.731 --> 01:29:39.113
So this is the timeframe. Oh yeah, by the way, that's my birthday. When I

01:29:39.613 --> 01:29:42.825
told that to my friends while we were walking the land of the back

01:29:43.325 --> 01:29:46.391
40 for the first time, they were like, oh my God, we gotta do something.

01:29:46.439 --> 01:29:48.602
We're gonna have a lot of fun. We're gonna throw you a party. I was

01:29:48.634 --> 01:29:51.717
like, okay, thanks. You know, that's fun. I, I appreciate that.

01:29:52.042 --> 01:29:56.345
And that night, that night after that conversation

01:29:56.361 --> 01:29:59.717
happened on the land where we found Sasquatch activity along

01:29:59.830 --> 01:30:02.720
this walk, you know, and I'm pointing out, I'm like, look at this, look at

01:30:03.220 --> 01:30:06.188
this. Um, absolutely. They're, they're there.

01:30:07.440 --> 01:30:09.961
And, uh, that night,

01:30:10.572 --> 01:30:13.847
um, one of my friends lives on

01:30:14.281 --> 01:30:18.077
the back 40 off-grid in her tiny home. And she's

01:30:18.577 --> 01:30:22.308
got 3 dogs. My other friend has a main house

01:30:22.827 --> 01:30:25.551
as the crow flies, um, a mile away.

01:30:26.532 --> 01:30:30.033
And, and that's, you know, a regular house with regular yard and all

01:30:30.146 --> 01:30:31.857
of that. So,

01:30:33.616 --> 01:30:36.345
uh, the group of us, the camping group is, is at the house.

01:30:36.865 --> 01:30:40.922
And then the one person who lives on the property is at

01:30:41.422 --> 01:30:45.840
the property in her tiny home that night. So timing,

01:30:46.114 --> 01:30:50.820
synchronicity, all these things that it's so interesting

01:30:50.916 --> 01:30:54.482
how much the Sasquatch interweave

01:30:54.852 --> 01:30:59.253
that and also know like how doing

01:30:59.365 --> 01:31:02.337
this little piece up here is going to connect to this piece over here.

01:31:02.417 --> 01:31:05.276
It's going to make you, it's going to bring you over to this thing.

01:31:05.405 --> 01:31:08.441
And then it's going to make this thing from 10 years ago make sense.

01:31:09.467 --> 01:31:12.609
You know, so, uh, I'm,

01:31:13.314 --> 01:31:17.546
I'm sitting there and, and, and my friend Bette is on

01:31:17.578 --> 01:31:21.072
the couch and I'm sitting in a chair across from her in, in her living

01:31:21.104 --> 01:31:24.374
room. And I sent her a picture of me

01:31:24.874 --> 01:31:27.244
as a little child that I had just come across on the phone.

01:31:27.740 --> 01:31:30.578
And I was like, she's going to think this is cute. I'm going to send

01:31:31.078 --> 01:31:34.328
it to her. So I sent it to her, boom, she receives it. And she's

01:31:34.828 --> 01:31:37.665
like, oh my God, this is so cute. I'm going to send this to Beth.

01:31:38.260 --> 01:31:41.792
And so she sends it to Beth, who is in the

01:31:42.292 --> 01:31:46.898
tiny home on the back 40 off-grid. The moment

01:31:47.572 --> 01:31:52.068
that Beth receives the text,

01:31:52.630 --> 01:31:55.280
texted photo of me as a child,

01:31:56.002 --> 01:31:59.824
she writes back to Bette, and I know their names are similar,

01:32:00.000 --> 01:32:02.264
so Um,

01:32:02.987 --> 01:32:05.765
she writes back, she's like, you're never going to believe what just happened.

01:32:06.680 --> 01:32:10.260
She's like, what just happened? And so then like Beth gets on the phone

01:32:10.292 --> 01:32:13.151
with Bette and she was like, dude, this whole thing just went down.

01:32:13.841 --> 01:32:17.598
So she was at, she was inside of her kitchen, I think.

01:32:18.867 --> 01:32:22.223
And the 3 dogs that she has, she has no neighbors. There's no neighbors,

01:32:22.801 --> 01:32:26.911
you know, they're out on 40 acres, um, in the desert.

01:32:27.634 --> 01:32:31.295
She's, she's in her kitchen. Her dogs start going apeshit.

01:32:32.451 --> 01:32:36.031
And they've never done that before. But this is an apeshit

01:32:36.144 --> 01:32:39.981
that she is just like, what in the world is going on

01:32:40.481 --> 01:32:43.610
outside? They're all pointed at the front door doing their

01:32:44.110 --> 01:32:47.383
thing. So she calms them. She puts them back, does not

01:32:47.883 --> 01:32:50.932
let them out, gets outside and closes the door behind her.

01:32:51.702 --> 01:32:55.114
It's dark. You know, no streetlights, no nothing. She's out

01:32:55.614 --> 01:32:59.133
in the desert. She's also a woodworker. And,

01:32:59.165 --> 01:33:03.245
um, and so she has like a woodworking size

01:33:03.761 --> 01:33:07.557
dumpster on the property for all the big pieces of, of,

01:33:07.703 --> 01:33:10.862
uh, materials and whatnot. And this,

01:33:11.153 --> 01:33:14.981
this, uh, container is actually in front

01:33:15.111 --> 01:33:18.035
of this tree, this, uh,

01:33:18.358 --> 01:33:21.558
juniper. And, and it, and it

01:33:22.058 --> 01:33:25.476
creates a situation to where the juniper tree is kind of like, you cannot

01:33:25.669 --> 01:33:27.443
access it because it's too far back.

01:33:29.005 --> 01:33:31.959
So she's walking and she's listening.

01:33:32.298 --> 01:33:34.866
She's looking around. She's checking it out.

01:33:35.075 --> 01:33:37.934
It's quiet. There's no noise.

01:33:39.261 --> 01:33:42.626
And then she looks at this tree that's behind

01:33:42.658 --> 01:33:46.334
this dumpster and she sees something in it. And so she

01:33:46.382 --> 01:33:49.649
picks up this, this long branch thing or,

01:33:50.166 --> 01:33:53.998
you know, scrap piece of wood and it's like

01:33:54.046 --> 01:33:57.488
6 feet long. And then she

01:33:57.520 --> 01:34:01.267
goes in and she fishes out what has

01:34:01.379 --> 01:34:05.439
been shoved into the tree as far

01:34:05.504 --> 01:34:09.064
back as it can go and like up against the trunk,

01:34:09.874 --> 01:34:13.192
which was A Mylar blown up

01:34:13.692 --> 01:34:15.924
with helium happy birthday balloon.

01:34:23.139 --> 01:34:26.393
Isn't that

01:34:26.457 --> 01:34:30.023
great? And the

01:34:30.523 --> 01:34:33.451
Sasquatch people use Mylar balloons.

01:34:34.050 --> 01:34:37.736
This is a, this is a thematic aspect of their

01:34:38.236 --> 01:34:41.510
communication. Interesting. We have a

01:34:42.010 --> 01:34:45.428
place in, in, in the forest

01:34:45.508 --> 01:34:49.394
up in Washington, and it's known as Balloon Forest

01:34:49.699 --> 01:34:53.857
because every time those who know about that area go out

01:34:54.357 --> 01:34:57.823
there to check their gifting spots or whatever, they find more balloons.

01:34:57.887 --> 01:35:01.420
And over like 40-plus balloons have been found in this one area.

01:35:02.367 --> 01:35:06.009
You know, I've had like balloon activity

01:35:06.458 --> 01:35:10.100
connected to Mount Tabor with the, with Renee, who,

01:35:10.886 --> 01:35:14.303
who discovered the structures to begin with when

01:35:14.415 --> 01:35:18.201
we decided to meet up at like 4 o'clock in the morning at her,

01:35:19.052 --> 01:35:22.244
uh, at her hair salon, which is just at

01:35:22.276 --> 01:35:25.870
the base of Mount Tabor in a little area

01:35:26.370 --> 01:35:30.302
called Montevideo. And When she walked up to her shop,

01:35:30.848 --> 01:35:34.303
there was, I think it was a happy birthday balloon or like she

01:35:34.803 --> 01:35:38.806
was in the shop and she watched this happy birthday balloon with a weight on

01:35:39.306 --> 01:35:42.656
it, Mylar balloon, like float down the street and then

01:35:42.753 --> 01:35:46.007
come into, to sit right in front of her door.

01:35:47.738 --> 01:35:50.278
And then like, it was literally like her,

01:35:51.458 --> 01:35:54.419
like her, uh, her partner's father's birthday.

01:35:55.147 --> 01:35:59.306
That day. Crazy. That's insane.

01:35:59.884 --> 01:36:03.192
Yeah. Like they, they, they do that, but that happened,

01:36:03.272 --> 01:36:06.484
you know, there was other things like they were, they made themselves known, like inside

01:36:06.984 --> 01:36:10.658
the house. They were very supportive of like, kind of like the things that

01:36:11.158 --> 01:36:14.769
we were doing. We did hold ceremony. We, we, we had a, we had

01:36:15.269 --> 01:36:18.093
a fucking great time. So cool. Next time it happens.

01:36:18.350 --> 01:36:21.947
Um, and if, if everything aligns, you know, I'd love to see you guys

01:36:22.059 --> 01:36:25.415
out there. Absolutely. Also give, give my love to, to Hunter for sure.

01:36:25.672 --> 01:36:28.627
Yes, right back at you. Yeah, she said that too.

01:36:28.868 --> 01:36:32.482
I'm glad you mentioned that. Uh, yeah, we would, if the

01:36:32.982 --> 01:36:36.111
timing is right, we totally would be down for that. I would love to do

01:36:36.611 --> 01:36:40.769
that. Um, yeah, I'm pretty sure, like, I'm feeling the call to host

01:36:40.833 --> 01:36:44.366
more campouts, small, you know,

01:36:44.783 --> 01:36:48.477
but there's plenty of places to go up

01:36:48.977 --> 01:36:51.464
here. And, um, and there's,

01:36:51.593 --> 01:36:54.612
there's They're everywhere. They're definitely here.

01:36:54.965 --> 01:36:58.320
And this is a great place to camp. So we can, we'll be doing

01:36:58.352 --> 01:37:01.997
a lot of camping in Arizona and probably more in

01:37:02.126 --> 01:37:05.096
New Mexico for sure. Cool. How close to you are, uh,

01:37:05.577 --> 01:37:09.029
how close are you to Sedona? It is not

01:37:09.529 --> 01:37:12.883
that far. Um, I think it's like, it's like an hour and a half drive.

01:37:13.059 --> 01:37:16.447
I actually just went up there. My friend and I went up there to get

01:37:16.897 --> 01:37:20.283
water because there's a Um, there's a spring that's,

01:37:20.411 --> 01:37:24.293
you know, deep underground Sedona vortex water. Oh yeah.

01:37:24.341 --> 01:37:27.229
And it's just on the side of the road. So yeah, we went and picked

01:37:27.729 --> 01:37:31.192
up 80 gallons of Superman water. All right,

01:37:31.256 --> 01:37:34.962
cool. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. And there's Sasquatch activity

01:37:35.010 --> 01:37:38.154
there too. So I would imagine, I would be surprised

01:37:38.654 --> 01:37:42.357
if there wasn't. Yeah, there's, there's, they're all over,

01:37:42.405 --> 01:37:46.143
you know, the, the, the Apache have, have the stories

01:37:46.191 --> 01:37:49.431
of them. They were known as the, um, the mountain

01:37:49.463 --> 01:37:52.638
spirits, the Ga'an. The Apache

01:37:52.670 --> 01:37:56.502
have their stories. The Diné have their stories. You know, all the indigenous

01:37:57.002 --> 01:38:00.013
peoples of this area, they, they all know,

01:38:00.381 --> 01:38:04.390
you know, they all know. I recently discovered

01:38:04.518 --> 01:38:08.462
through a Modern Fairy Sightings podcast,

01:38:09.328 --> 01:38:13.801
she had somebody on, Joe Hickey Hall had somebody on from

01:38:13.977 --> 01:38:17.440
a podcast, and I'm looking it up real quick so I make sure and get

01:38:17.940 --> 01:38:21.672
the name right. A podcast

01:38:22.172 --> 01:38:25.103
called Lodge Tales. Have you ever heard of that?

01:38:25.680 --> 01:38:28.806
I have not. Okay. It's kind of like a Sasquatch

01:38:28.822 --> 01:38:32.413
Chronicles, um, situation where people

01:38:32.913 --> 01:38:36.821
just come on and they tell their stories and their accounts, only it's all Native-based.

01:38:37.158 --> 01:38:40.652
It's all Native Americans. Yeah. And there's some crazy

01:38:40.764 --> 01:38:44.419
shit that they experience on the rez. It's insane.

01:38:45.013 --> 01:38:48.430
Yep. I haven't been to the desert in years,

01:38:48.527 --> 01:38:52.265
but I would love to go back because I remember being so

01:38:52.794 --> 01:38:56.404
surprised by it. I thought it would just be desolate and dry and just

01:38:56.904 --> 01:39:00.559
like not appealing to me, but I went out there and it was so super

01:39:01.059 --> 01:39:04.570
magical, like especially at night. It's like amazing. Yeah.

01:39:04.988 --> 01:39:08.950
Yeah. So I dig it. I, you know, I lived in Arizona

01:39:09.143 --> 01:39:13.346
for 20 years or so and spent

01:39:13.846 --> 01:39:17.811
my time all the way up until moving

01:39:17.924 --> 01:39:21.411
to the Pacific Northwest. You know, this, this was my home for

01:39:21.911 --> 01:39:24.915
a long time, but you know, that,

01:39:25.593 --> 01:39:28.155
that consisted of Phoenix and Tucson.

01:39:28.829 --> 01:39:32.686
And I, I had exposure to Northern Arizona

01:39:33.473 --> 01:39:36.806
in my youth, you know, on vacation or driving through with family

01:39:37.306 --> 01:39:41.732
or whatever. Um, so this homecoming that

01:39:41.860 --> 01:39:45.425
has occurred, which again, I didn't know it was going

01:39:45.925 --> 01:39:49.422
to happen. I, but it, it, but it did. And it, and it,

01:39:49.583 --> 01:39:53.356
and it has, uh, you know, moment by

01:39:53.856 --> 01:39:58.221
moment showed me how, uh, this perfection

01:39:58.317 --> 01:40:01.993
is continuing to unfold. Like there's nothing deviating from

01:40:02.106 --> 01:40:04.611
the path. Like this was the path. You know,

01:40:05.718 --> 01:40:09.973
and that I would have this homecoming and in this

01:40:10.473 --> 01:40:14.598
return to this land, yet this is brand new and

01:40:15.176 --> 01:40:18.692
it's on a higher level of brand new because

01:40:19.623 --> 01:40:23.589
I'm, I'm, I didn't have, I had, I had UFO experiences.

01:40:23.686 --> 01:40:26.945
I definitely had paranormal experiences in my youth or whatever.

01:40:27.539 --> 01:40:31.090
Um, but it was, I, It was never, it was never

01:40:31.590 --> 01:40:35.027
a focus, you know? And then I go up to the Pacific Northwest

01:40:35.527 --> 01:40:39.066
for 16 years and get just a massive 16-year

01:40:39.115 --> 01:40:42.263
education, you know, that's filled with

01:40:42.763 --> 01:40:46.914
the experiences. And now I get to come back to this

01:40:47.527 --> 01:40:50.722
fucking sacred land. Like, this is really, really,

01:40:50.996 --> 01:40:54.401
really, really just enriched with,

01:40:55.094 --> 01:40:59.871
um, with, with, with treasure to,

01:41:01.075 --> 01:41:04.623
to, to discover. So yeah,

01:41:04.639 --> 01:41:08.172
man, party's on. Party's on. You're invited. Cool.

01:41:08.220 --> 01:41:11.463
Yes. I look forward to that very much so.

01:41:12.314 --> 01:41:15.991
Um, speaking of UFOs, what do

01:41:16.024 --> 01:41:19.652
you have any take on the, the, the Bigfoot UFO

01:41:19.781 --> 01:41:23.448
overlap? Like those They're in

01:41:23.948 --> 01:41:27.271
cahoots. They're totally in cahoots. My first experience

01:41:27.771 --> 01:41:31.433
with the Sasquatch included an aerial event, you know, and I look at that now

01:41:31.530 --> 01:41:35.407
and I wonder if it was orbs associated with the Bigfoot or if it was

01:41:35.584 --> 01:41:39.559
orbs associated with the UFOs people. Um, I like,

01:41:41.430 --> 01:41:45.243
after it happened and for a long time, I just associated it with the UFO

01:41:45.743 --> 01:41:49.023
people, but, you know, now I, I'm like, well, I don't know, you know,

01:41:49.039 --> 01:41:52.701
I, I didn't ask that question and I've never gotten a definitive answer.

01:41:52.750 --> 01:41:56.198
So it's truly an, I don't know, but I know that they

01:41:56.698 --> 01:42:00.560
are, they're working together. We've had plenty of experiences camping

01:42:00.688 --> 01:42:03.911
to where it's every time it's like

01:42:03.976 --> 01:42:06.830
a 99.9, if not 100%,

01:42:07.568 --> 01:42:10.856
um, that those 2 things will

01:42:11.356 --> 01:42:14.961
happen within the same timeframe. You, you know, you'll have UFO

01:42:15.461 --> 01:42:18.826
activity every single night of camp. You're going to have Bigfoot activity every single

01:42:19.326 --> 01:42:23.474
night of camp. And if you stay up or get up late

01:42:23.682 --> 01:42:27.352
and poke your head out of the tent, you just might see some

01:42:27.849 --> 01:42:31.759
interesting things happening with doorways of light and

01:42:32.191 --> 01:42:34.723
portals opening and, you know,

01:42:35.012 --> 01:42:37.928
those worlds interacting together. I don't know what they're doing,

01:42:38.761 --> 01:42:42.335
but it's, they're working together in some capacity.

01:42:42.431 --> 01:42:45.752
It's not just for frivolous fun for us. You know,

01:42:46.850 --> 01:42:50.596
although it's teaching us, but they're

01:42:51.096 --> 01:42:54.343
not just getting together for our benefit. They're doing whatever they're doing.

01:42:55.490 --> 01:42:59.643
I think they're all doing something. I think they're all in cahoots. It's just us

01:42:59.691 --> 01:43:00.822
that forgot the language.

01:43:03.440 --> 01:43:07.022
Yeah, because there's lots of instances where somebody

01:43:07.522 --> 01:43:10.587
will see Sasquatch people and then they will

01:43:10.701 --> 01:43:14.086
split for instance, in one instance that I'm thinking of,

01:43:14.664 --> 01:43:17.856
and immediately where they are running, soon,

01:43:18.049 --> 01:43:21.818
seconds after that, a ship will take off. And it's like,

01:43:22.139 --> 01:43:26.454
like it's their ride or something. It's like, that is so, that's so fascinating

01:43:26.551 --> 01:43:31.443
to me. Like, what possible work

01:43:31.943 --> 01:43:34.908
would they have together? Like, I'm not doubting it. I'm just like,

01:43:35.518 --> 01:43:38.999
yeah, what are they doing? Yeah. But it seems like they're doing something with with

01:43:39.047 --> 01:43:42.942
the materials, not materials, but with the natural

01:43:42.990 --> 01:43:46.565
world. They're doing something. I don't know if it's like testing

01:43:46.661 --> 01:43:50.605
or scientific or energetic or, you know, are they all just like

01:43:51.086 --> 01:43:54.997
doing energy work? I don't know. But it does seem like they're

01:43:55.238 --> 01:43:58.556
in cahoots working with nature,

01:43:58.861 --> 01:44:03.029
right? Like, because it is out in these weird

01:44:03.093 --> 01:44:07.780
areas of the forest. You know, in, in the more natural environments.

01:44:07.844 --> 01:44:11.360
But then again, again, it's just like, we can't keep

01:44:11.860 --> 01:44:14.716
it out. We can't just keep it out there. You know, that shit's happening in

01:44:14.828 --> 01:44:18.200
the cities too. You know, you have punk rock fairies in the parks.

01:44:18.281 --> 01:44:21.685
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh,

01:44:22.214 --> 01:44:26.245
and when you say that they're everywhere, do you mean even in, in more

01:44:26.309 --> 01:44:29.087
populated, less wooded areas? Yes.

01:44:30.307 --> 01:44:34.163
All, yeah. Because they can cloak and they can, they can

01:44:34.179 --> 01:44:38.597
do all those things. So yeah, like at this point, like it,

01:44:38.983 --> 01:44:42.501
it's, uh, it's, it's not a question

01:44:42.597 --> 01:44:45.570
of can they walk amongst us?

01:44:46.148 --> 01:44:49.939
The question is how often, how many, you know,

01:44:50.004 --> 01:44:53.104
where, where, where do they like to hang out? It does seem

01:44:53.137 --> 01:44:56.719
like even like, like at the, at this courthouse,

01:44:56.912 --> 01:45:00.520
that hosts events every single weekend, you know,

01:45:00.824 --> 01:45:03.614
droves of tourists are coming in there all the time.

01:45:03.871 --> 01:45:06.581
What a great place to just sit back and watch humans.

01:45:07.094 --> 01:45:11.167
Yeah, exactly. Completely unregistered.

01:45:11.424 --> 01:45:14.743
Yeah. You know, unless you absolutely know what you're looking for

01:45:14.791 --> 01:45:17.421
and you can, you can read your environment, but,

01:45:18.158 --> 01:45:21.333
you know, not, not everyone has the Bigfoot sunglasses.

01:45:21.830 --> 01:45:25.449
Um, but when you do have Bigfoot sunglasses on, boy, you start

01:45:25.514 --> 01:45:30.695
seeing just how prevalent their marks

01:45:30.841 --> 01:45:33.969
are upon our civilization.

01:45:34.483 --> 01:45:37.857
Yeah, that's highly

01:45:38.357 --> 01:45:41.554
fascinating. We don't have a whole lot of time left,

01:45:41.619 --> 01:45:44.865
but if somebody were to come to you, and I'm sure that they have,

01:45:45.091 --> 01:45:48.968
and we'll just say I'm asking for a friend, but really

01:45:49.468 --> 01:45:53.494
I'm asking for me. Um, if someone were to,

01:45:54.744 --> 01:45:57.886
from an earnest place, a pure

01:45:58.386 --> 01:46:02.439
place, uh, want to or seek to make

01:46:02.939 --> 01:46:06.109
a connection with Sasquatch people, do you have,

01:46:07.167 --> 01:46:11.030
is it to you a case-by-case basis? Like it just depends

01:46:11.530 --> 01:46:15.775
on when and where and how, or is there a certain sort

01:46:16.275 --> 01:46:20.144
of protocol that you follow in order to establish that relationship?

01:46:23.870 --> 01:46:27.023
Um, all interactions that you're going to have with the Sasquatch are going to be

01:46:27.039 --> 01:46:30.863
on their terms, you know, and if you're already thinking

01:46:31.377 --> 01:46:34.519
about wanting to do this, they already know you want to,

01:46:35.083 --> 01:46:38.696
right? Because they are operating in this past,

01:46:38.712 --> 01:46:42.644
present, future aspect of nonlinear

01:46:42.775 --> 01:46:46.203
time. They already know. They already know what,

01:46:46.623 --> 01:46:49.946
you know, your connections with them are going to be in at

01:46:50.446 --> 01:46:54.173
the, you know, 20 years from now or in your next lifetime or

01:46:54.286 --> 01:46:57.288
whatever. Right. So it's just,

01:46:57.675 --> 01:47:01.936
um, always, always leading with

01:47:01.952 --> 01:47:04.524
your heart and with respect. Number one,

01:47:05.446 --> 01:47:09.298
that's it. It's, it's profound and simple.

01:47:09.980 --> 01:47:13.802
At the same time, humble yourself to be respectful of yourself

01:47:13.964 --> 01:47:17.010
and respectful of your environment and respectful of the situation,

01:47:17.771 --> 01:47:21.126
you know, and, and in,

01:47:21.384 --> 01:47:25.322
in, in doing so, that doorway gets opened

01:47:25.790 --> 01:47:31.659
and in just how enticing

01:47:32.913 --> 01:47:36.455
magic can be, right? Always,

01:47:37.037 --> 01:47:39.444
always, uh, go forward with precaution.

01:47:40.671 --> 01:47:45.455
Um, not only because you're

01:47:45.955 --> 01:47:49.967
dealing with a bridge, the Sasquatch are a bridge into the magic

01:47:50.048 --> 01:47:53.883
of this world, right? They're going to show you and you're going to feel just

01:47:54.383 --> 01:47:57.409
how real all of that really is.

01:47:58.806 --> 01:48:02.497
And it can overwhelm. It can absolutely overwhelm.

01:48:03.204 --> 01:48:06.253
It can create obsession within an individual,

01:48:06.911 --> 01:48:09.929
right? So, um, I would,

01:48:10.202 --> 01:48:12.513
I would always just like,

01:48:13.958 --> 01:48:18.308
like bring it the reminder of, of having a healthy relationship

01:48:18.372 --> 01:48:21.646
with the supernatural, just like you would with anything,

01:48:21.903 --> 01:48:25.691
you know, don't lock yourself in, in the basement, you know, and do

01:48:26.191 --> 01:48:28.709
a Ouija board alone. You, you gotta follow rules, right?

01:48:29.700 --> 01:48:33.956
Um, in how you interact with the supernatural, because again,

01:48:35.665 --> 01:48:38.743
the Sasquatch aren't the only ones. You know, I think

01:48:39.243 --> 01:48:42.400
discernment is absolutely dire,

01:48:43.157 --> 01:48:45.589
you know, like, or it's, it is so important to,

01:48:46.883 --> 01:48:50.319
to, to have this discernment in,

01:48:50.658 --> 01:48:54.029
in, in moving forward in a good way with the supernatural.

01:48:55.147 --> 01:48:59.405
Um, because if you don't, you can get manipulated.

01:48:59.778 --> 01:49:01.387
You can, you can go off path.

01:49:04.503 --> 01:49:07.761
Um, they aren't the only ones who can mind speak. They aren't the only ones

01:49:08.261 --> 01:49:11.871
who can shapeshift. They aren't the only ones who can do things.

01:49:12.081 --> 01:49:15.514
So it's up to you to like really know the purity of,

01:49:16.942 --> 01:49:19.818
of, of wanting that connection, you know,

01:49:20.064 --> 01:49:23.863
and, and then seeking seeking only that, putting up your boundaries

01:49:24.447 --> 01:49:28.352
to the other things. That's how I know people, my homie,

01:49:28.417 --> 01:49:31.313
that's how we operate in the forest. You know, you set up your boundaries,

01:49:31.361 --> 01:49:35.487
you're inviting in the Sasquatch for

01:49:35.520 --> 01:49:39.024
higher dimensional experiences and connections,

01:49:40.785 --> 01:49:44.339
banishing any and all from the area

01:49:44.839 --> 01:49:48.435
and from the experiences who have Um, any ill will

01:49:48.773 --> 01:49:52.610
or intention, you know, um, it's the adage

01:49:52.787 --> 01:49:56.239
of I'd rather have no experience than a bad experience, right?

01:49:56.576 --> 01:49:59.932
You know, so again, it's like the respect of the environment,

01:49:59.948 --> 01:50:03.978
the respect of the supernatural world, the respect for you dipping your

01:50:04.026 --> 01:50:07.077
toe into it, you know, and then also the,

01:50:07.157 --> 01:50:10.626
like the, like the respect for you to, to not

01:50:10.786 --> 01:50:14.040
get wrapped up in the

01:50:14.331 --> 01:50:17.481
obsession that can come. And I say this from

01:50:17.981 --> 01:50:20.307
my own experience, you know,

01:50:20.760 --> 01:50:24.021
because it doesn't

01:50:24.247 --> 01:50:27.057
take much for us to like hyperfocus,

01:50:28.042 --> 01:50:31.491
you know? So just be aware of that.

01:50:31.910 --> 01:50:35.500
And then also recognize that this is benefit

01:50:35.645 --> 01:50:38.880
for growth. This is benefit

01:50:38.913 --> 01:50:42.704
for for soul growth, you know, like this is benefit for,

01:50:43.655 --> 01:50:47.649
for, for, for the wisdom to come in and,

01:50:47.826 --> 01:50:50.291
and to be the student of, again,

01:50:51.853 --> 01:50:55.493
like we're not talking about Nephilim. We're talking about beings

01:50:55.702 --> 01:50:59.194
who physically come here because they are

01:50:59.694 --> 01:51:03.432
in such a harmonious relationship with nature and they have such

01:51:03.481 --> 01:51:07.877
high respect for nature that they want to living in

01:51:07.990 --> 01:51:11.508
this environment, but then they can also go to

01:51:12.008 --> 01:51:14.721
the heavenly realms. That's who you're dealing with.

01:51:15.878 --> 01:51:19.926
If you're dealing with someone who literally like sits down and, and plays

01:51:20.103 --> 01:51:23.187
chess with Jesus, you know,

01:51:23.798 --> 01:51:27.670
or in that capacity, like have that respect

01:51:28.170 --> 01:51:31.557
for, for what you, what you're going to learn,

01:51:31.830 --> 01:51:36.150
what you're going to experience. And for beings

01:51:36.182 --> 01:51:40.084
that are so powerful that if they wanted to do you harm,

01:51:40.116 --> 01:51:43.183
they really could do you. Yeah. Yeah.

01:51:43.568 --> 01:51:46.988
They could break you like a toothpick. Yes. And that doesn't happen.

01:51:47.743 --> 01:51:51.179
And that's another aspect of, like I was talking about,

01:51:51.195 --> 01:51:54.535
how they just watch. They are just watching. They are allowing

01:51:54.647 --> 01:51:57.762
us to put our hand in the fire. They are allowing us to have the

01:51:58.262 --> 01:52:01.456
full experience. They aren't going to fix us or just get

01:52:01.569 --> 01:52:04.879
rid of us. You know, that's not the point here. You know,

01:52:04.960 --> 01:52:08.695
the human condition, um, everything that is occurring

01:52:08.952 --> 01:52:12.745
in this world, like, remember that there is

01:52:13.245 --> 01:52:16.007
an aspect of perfection in all of it.

01:52:16.441 --> 01:52:19.269
There's an absolute perfection within the,

01:52:20.385 --> 01:52:24.574
the, the narrative controllers

01:52:24.833 --> 01:52:28.327
and all of that and the media. There's a perfection in the media.

01:52:29.073 --> 01:52:31.722
There's a perfection in, uh,

01:52:32.669 --> 01:52:37.052
in the Donald Trumps and, and the Obamas and in the Bidens

01:52:37.325 --> 01:52:40.921
and, and political circuses because

01:52:41.676 --> 01:52:45.255
those things can teach us in really perfected ways.

01:52:46.636 --> 01:52:49.429
And it's only like in this funny, funky,

01:52:50.248 --> 01:52:53.154
weird, potentially like,

01:52:53.619 --> 01:52:58.757
you know, code-created matrix,

01:52:58.773 --> 01:53:03.550
telenovela, you know, that we get to experience

01:53:04.080 --> 01:53:07.635
what all those things look like and what we want to connect with and where

01:53:07.683 --> 01:53:10.393
we want to put our energy and how we want to use our time here

01:53:10.862 --> 01:53:14.110
and how we devote ourselves, you know,

01:53:14.191 --> 01:53:18.029
to ourselves and to each other and, and to the heightened experience.

01:53:18.174 --> 01:53:21.542
But there is perfection. There's nothing that's, there's literally nothing

01:53:21.574 --> 01:53:25.260
going wrong. You know, if you can take that, that again,

01:53:25.276 --> 01:53:28.263
that eagle-eyed perspective, knowing that like,

01:53:28.825 --> 01:53:32.598
oh, hey, guess what? In the world of duality, you have duality, you know,

01:53:32.983 --> 01:53:35.617
and there's a perfection in that. And,

01:53:36.130 --> 01:53:39.390
you know, they're up there or, or from that higher perspective,

01:53:39.486 --> 01:53:43.645
just allowing humans to be the humans. And when

01:53:44.159 --> 01:53:48.189
those pop out, you know, of that,

01:53:48.317 --> 01:53:51.481
of that kind of like denser cloud, when people pop their

01:53:51.529 --> 01:53:54.324
heads out and, and, and look around,

01:53:55.143 --> 01:53:58.533
then we're starting to interact.

01:53:59.256 --> 01:54:03.207
You know, we're starting to come together. We're starting to learn

01:54:03.593 --> 01:54:06.998
a little, like, like we were talking about, like there's bigger

01:54:07.047 --> 01:54:09.874
things happening here for sure.

01:54:11.079 --> 01:54:14.661
So I think all those things, and then just go to your local park.

01:54:15.159 --> 01:54:18.259
Yeah. Well, it sounds like I could go to my backyard.

01:54:18.532 --> 01:54:21.844
You could like absolutely go to your backyard, go to, go to your

01:54:22.344 --> 01:54:26.025
backyard, figure out a place, um, that you want to

01:54:26.105 --> 01:54:29.644
set up gifting, right? Uh, gifting is just a

01:54:30.144 --> 01:54:33.575
beautiful way. Think of, um, you, you can,

01:54:33.753 --> 01:54:37.177
you can gift, uh, they like organic food. They like

01:54:37.241 --> 01:54:40.527
blueberries. They like apples. Um, they don't

01:54:41.027 --> 01:54:44.071
like, they really don't like things with like preservatives and all the crap that we

01:54:44.571 --> 01:54:47.858
feed ourselves. Right. So,

01:54:48.323 --> 01:54:51.518
but they do appreciate organic fruit and

01:54:52.018 --> 01:54:55.981
cheese, also cheese, good cheese. Um, and then,

01:54:56.270 --> 01:54:59.578
and then there's the aspect of making your glyph and,

01:54:59.706 --> 01:55:02.869
and they stick language, the, the, the stick

01:55:03.094 --> 01:55:07.124
language of the glyphs, the, uh, stick talk.

01:55:07.750 --> 01:55:13.016
There's different names for it, but essentially it's

01:55:13.516 --> 01:55:16.982
It's materials, mostly sticks or branches, depending on how big, but sticks,

01:55:17.239 --> 01:55:21.076
sometimes stones, you know, natural materials that are placed

01:55:21.576 --> 01:55:24.689
into almost rune-style patterns

01:55:25.189 --> 01:55:28.607
or whatever, uh, to communicate. And you can make

01:55:29.107 --> 01:55:32.958
a sigil of yourself, right? Like make something that, that represents you,

01:55:33.039 --> 01:55:36.491
that represents you and Hunter, that represents, you know,

01:55:37.840 --> 01:55:40.890
represents you and then put that out. You know,

01:55:41.292 --> 01:55:44.599
your energetic signature is on that. They already, again, they already

01:55:45.099 --> 01:55:48.421
have this all knowing. So, so they know that, that you want to do

01:55:48.437 --> 01:55:52.226
that. They're, they're waiting for this opportunity. They're waiting for the opportunity.

01:55:52.387 --> 01:55:55.229
And anyone who's popping up their heads out of the cloud and,

01:55:55.823 --> 01:55:58.296
and going and putting sticks on the ground, shit's happening.

01:55:58.793 --> 01:56:02.069
Stuff's happening with people.

01:56:02.486 --> 01:56:05.885
Right? Like, it's not just me. It's not just, you know,

01:56:06.991 --> 01:56:11.047
a few of my friends or even, you know, the larger Bigfoot community.

01:56:11.143 --> 01:56:14.573
It's fucking happening en masse all over the place.

01:56:15.984 --> 01:56:19.591
So something big is shifting. Like, that's, that's where

01:56:19.639 --> 01:56:23.695
I'm at. Like, this, this shift in how much communication

01:56:23.727 --> 01:56:27.238
is occurring with people through them and,

01:56:27.414 --> 01:56:30.176
and us. Like, that's the most important thing in my life right now.

01:56:31.285 --> 01:56:33.582
How could it not be? This is big news.

01:56:34.257 --> 01:56:37.888
This is such big news, you'll never see it on the television.

01:56:38.097 --> 01:56:42.178
Yeah. Because you can't, you can't weigh it or market

01:56:42.194 --> 01:56:45.552
it or, yeah, there's just no way to, to, to capture it in

01:56:45.648 --> 01:56:48.942
any, any way we know how to capture things. Yeah.

01:56:49.119 --> 01:56:52.172
But I am looking forward to your movie. Well,

01:56:52.493 --> 01:56:55.843
thank you. Yes. I just, I really,

01:56:55.940 --> 01:56:59.142
it really needs to be done properly though. I don't want to, it could be,

01:56:59.821 --> 01:57:02.343
you know, I think of that idea and I think of how it could be

01:57:02.843 --> 01:57:05.662
done badly and I don't want it to be done badly. There is a movie

01:57:05.743 --> 01:57:09.276
called Sasquatch Sunset or something,

01:57:09.389 --> 01:57:12.987
Sunrise. I don't know if you've heard of it, but it's fucking ridiculous.

01:57:13.510 --> 01:57:16.916
Yeah. Well, I mean, so, so dig this, right?

01:57:18.427 --> 01:57:20.949
Yeah. And it is like, I never watched it. I'm not going to watch it.

01:57:21.078 --> 01:57:24.219
I saw some clips and I was like, you are disgraceful. It's gross.

01:57:24.620 --> 01:57:28.054
I don't want anything to do with you. Um, and so,

01:57:28.760 --> 01:57:32.596
you know, let's look at it from an investigative perspective,

01:57:32.789 --> 01:57:36.223
a detective eye. That movie came

01:57:36.544 --> 01:57:40.219
out of Hollywood very quickly, right? But, and if you probably

01:57:40.251 --> 01:57:43.846
do, um, a search on the directors and the

01:57:44.346 --> 01:57:47.746
writers and all the people, producers, la la la, you'll probably find some, I don't

01:57:48.246 --> 01:57:50.939
know, I haven't done it, but it, you probably find some interesting threads. Right?

01:57:51.485 --> 01:57:54.697
Of who they are, who they work for, la la la, where they get their

01:57:55.197 --> 01:57:58.197
money. Yes. Um, and then you have,

01:57:59.176 --> 01:58:02.275
you have a movie like A Flash of Beauty that kind of came

01:58:02.324 --> 01:58:05.776
out around the same time, right? That's giving you the best

01:58:06.276 --> 01:58:09.934
perspective from real humans, real individuals who've had real experiences with the

01:58:10.434 --> 01:58:14.045
paranormal, supernatural, Sasquatch, which is leading them to higher consciousness

01:58:14.545 --> 01:58:17.703
and healing, right? So you have these 2 films

01:58:17.799 --> 01:58:21.742
that came out and Flash of Beauty came out and then real quick that

01:58:22.242 --> 01:58:25.477
other one came out. And this is the most disgraceful, disgusting,

01:58:26.134 --> 01:58:29.276
um, representation of these people,

01:58:30.158 --> 01:58:34.213
right? Like it makes, it's making me angry because Hollywood

01:58:34.229 --> 01:58:37.900
has done a complete disservice except for Harry and the Hendersons. You know

01:58:38.400 --> 01:58:41.971
what I mean? And like maybe Letters to the Big Man. There's only a couple

01:58:42.019 --> 01:58:46.221
of Sasquatch movies. That are showing true

01:58:46.773 --> 01:58:51.798
aspects of them and doing the respect of the

01:58:52.298 --> 01:58:54.886
representation. So, you know,

01:58:55.371 --> 01:58:59.236
was that particular movie a psyop? I don't know. I put

01:58:59.736 --> 01:59:03.702
it in that category just because of how

01:59:03.830 --> 01:59:07.551
gross the clips were. You know, I didn't even see the whole thing, but it

01:59:07.632 --> 01:59:10.997
went into collective. Consciousness. It got a lot of

01:59:11.029 --> 01:59:13.194
talk. It got pushed out there, you know,

01:59:14.164 --> 01:59:18.460
and, and, and when I see that with media,

01:59:18.605 --> 01:59:21.104
with how this topic has been, um,

01:59:22.232 --> 01:59:25.748
has been showcased from those places on the television,

01:59:26.589 --> 01:59:31.100
uh, it is absolutely

01:59:31.213 --> 01:59:34.568
trying to squash the truth or

01:59:34.698 --> 01:59:38.038
deviate from the truth as much as possible,

01:59:38.166 --> 01:59:40.491
because again, what,

01:59:41.453 --> 01:59:45.140
what is coming forth from people understanding the

01:59:45.640 --> 01:59:49.869
Sasquatch as who they truly are is a rise in consciousness in the individual,

01:59:50.094 --> 01:59:53.877
is, is a cleaning up of, of the interior of the house,

01:59:54.422 --> 01:59:58.077
you know, of, of, of the human, of like, all right, I clear

01:59:58.125 --> 02:00:00.450
my head. I have to, I have to look at things differently. I have to

02:00:00.950 --> 02:00:04.191
come from my heart. I have to look at my relationship with God. I have

02:00:04.223 --> 02:00:07.196
to look at my relationship with my family. I have to learn, you know,

02:00:07.678 --> 02:00:09.316
it's like that the, the, uh,

02:00:11.100 --> 02:00:14.456
the articulated and, and healed

02:00:15.069 --> 02:00:18.925
human is the most powerful and feared

02:00:19.119 --> 02:00:22.245
by, by those who are the manipulators.

02:00:22.912 --> 02:00:25.953
Because you can't fucking manipulate someone after they've gone

02:00:26.001 --> 02:00:29.849
through that transformation. And the Sasquatch are

02:00:29.962 --> 02:00:33.749
just, you know, they've got like the t-shirt

02:00:33.846 --> 02:00:37.114
gun, pom pom pom, and everybody's putting t-shirts on. You know

02:00:37.614 --> 02:00:41.539
what I mean? Like, that's what happens. It's that kind of like, you know,

02:00:41.863 --> 02:00:45.240
opening. And then, and then the manipulation

02:00:45.740 --> 02:00:49.752
isn't there anymore. Now you have this higher perspective of like, well, all that

02:00:50.252 --> 02:00:52.809
shit that I thought was running the world, they're not.

02:00:53.373 --> 02:00:56.983
They, it didn't even matter. There's so much other stuff

02:00:57.483 --> 02:01:00.305
going on and it's perfect. Yes,

02:01:01.332 --> 02:01:04.959
absolutely. I agree. And I, that is a great note to,

02:01:05.312 --> 02:01:09.709
uh, I think draw it to a close on. And Ashley,

02:01:09.742 --> 02:01:12.855
thank you so much for agreeing to do this. It was great,

02:01:13.015 --> 02:01:16.851
uh, reconnecting with you again. Many blessings.

02:01:17.108 --> 02:01:20.333
Is there a place that, or places that you would like to send people if

02:01:20.833 --> 02:01:23.045
they want to find out more about your work and your research and stuff?

02:01:23.686 --> 02:01:26.827
Absolutely. Thank you so much, Chris. It's always a pleasure talking to you

02:01:26.971 --> 02:01:30.352
again. Give my love to Hunter. I can't wait to talk

02:01:30.852 --> 02:01:34.294
to y'all again. And, um, absolutely. Let's do think

02:01:34.794 --> 02:01:38.668
about campouts and, and getting together in the physical in the future

02:01:39.085 --> 02:01:42.097
and sharing in the magic. Um,

02:01:43.011 --> 02:01:46.584
the ways that I, uh, I'm connecting

02:01:46.616 --> 02:01:49.997
with people, find me on Facebook, A-S-H-L-E-A.

02:01:50.846 --> 02:01:54.403
S-T-I-N-N-E-T-T is how you

02:01:54.903 --> 02:01:58.008
spell my name. That same, uh, my name is also the name of

02:01:58.508 --> 02:02:02.094
my YouTube channel. Check out the YouTube channel. Um,

02:02:02.702 --> 02:02:06.420
there's phenomenal things in these videos.

02:02:06.788 --> 02:02:09.800
And I, the, the whole,

02:02:10.313 --> 02:02:13.453
uh, soon I'm going to make a playlist that'll just

02:02:13.953 --> 02:02:16.786
have everything that's happening from, uh, from the Tabor days.

02:02:17.282 --> 02:02:20.583
Um, but, you know, just go through there. And, and the

02:02:21.083 --> 02:02:23.918
Sasquatch people at Mount Tabor, that was that first video that I did.

02:02:24.414 --> 02:02:27.636
And it's got like close to like 8,000 views or so. So it's

02:02:28.136 --> 02:02:31.948
that video. And then just work your way, work your way through the Tabor adventure,

02:02:31.964 --> 02:02:35.699
an entire year of connecting with the Sasquatch to

02:02:35.956 --> 02:02:39.418
include them shapeshifted into human form and

02:02:39.918 --> 02:02:43.105
getting that interaction on video. You know,

02:02:43.650 --> 02:02:46.615
um, you can't make this stuff up and I'm glad I got the video.

02:02:47.021 --> 02:02:47.991
To go along with it?

02:02:50.740 --> 02:02:54.324
Uh, oh, uh, so the

02:02:54.824 --> 02:02:58.537
first one in the series is called The Sasquatch People of Mount Tabor. Okay.

02:02:58.844 --> 02:03:02.135
And then that solstice video is,

02:03:02.477 --> 02:03:06.439
uh, The Sasquatch People and the Snowberries of

02:03:06.536 --> 02:03:09.623
Winter Solstice. And,

02:03:10.875 --> 02:03:14.836
and yeah, there was, Just, just so many ways

02:03:14.950 --> 02:03:16.168
in which they, uh,

02:03:18.588 --> 02:03:22.110
which they just knew. They just knew everything and they were just, they gave

02:03:22.610 --> 02:03:25.812
me so much to learn and, and it, and you really get to learn along

02:03:26.900 --> 02:03:30.222
in that series. Um, so check that out.

02:03:30.286 --> 02:03:34.033
Check out A Flash of Beauty, Paranormal Bigfoot. Um,

02:03:34.647 --> 02:03:38.087
that is absolutely like, it's, it's, it is

02:03:38.200 --> 02:03:41.698
the best. It is the best. Um, I, I say that

02:03:42.066 --> 02:03:45.994
not because I'm in it, but because it

02:03:46.494 --> 02:03:50.209
is the best. It's the, you know, because it is just the people

02:03:50.385 --> 02:03:53.960
telling their experiences. Um, and just to

02:03:54.460 --> 02:03:57.695
give a shout out to those homies, um, Brett Eichenberger

02:03:57.919 --> 02:04:01.413
and Jill Remensnyder, uh, the movie makers. Um,

02:04:02.407 --> 02:04:06.254
you know, look, look at their YouTube, which is the Flash of Beauty YouTube

02:04:06.754 --> 02:04:09.558
channel, because you hundreds at this point,

02:04:10.184 --> 02:04:13.440
um, extended interviews with people

02:04:13.889 --> 02:04:16.697
and all of their stories with Sasquatch. Yeah. Uh,

02:04:16.937 --> 02:04:20.755
they also have a new documentary coming out called Voices

02:04:21.092 --> 02:04:24.670
of, uh, Voices in the Wilderness or Voices of the Wilderness. Cool.

02:04:25.103 --> 02:04:28.969
Um, which is Ron Moorhead, which is the Sierra

02:04:29.469 --> 02:04:33.702
Sounds, which is all the surviving members of that hunting troop

02:04:34.166 --> 02:04:37.339
And they start telling,

02:04:37.851 --> 02:04:41.601
or they did tell in this documentary,

02:04:42.113 --> 02:04:44.998
they told things they never told before. Nice. They,

02:04:45.078 --> 02:04:48.523
they, they talked about all the paranormal stuff that went along with this.

02:04:48.683 --> 02:04:52.016
And it's just, you know, a lot of, some of those guys

02:04:52.112 --> 02:04:55.733
aren't with us anymore and everybody else is very much in their

02:04:56.233 --> 02:05:00.123
elderly years. So it's a beautiful thing that they did in being able to

02:05:00.623 --> 02:05:03.796
document that. So yeah, I mean,

02:05:04.230 --> 02:05:08.164
check out, check out YouTube, see you on Facebook. Give me a like and subscribe,

02:05:08.405 --> 02:05:11.696
share it with your friends. Yes. All right,

02:05:12.001 --> 02:05:14.795
Ashley, thank you so much. Have a fantastic rest of your evening.

02:05:15.453 --> 02:05:18.247
Great to see you, sister. Love you so much.

02:05:18.600 --> 02:05:22.615
Yes, likewise. Have a wonderful evening. Go do, go do your gifting in the backyard

02:05:22.759 --> 02:05:25.649
and let me know, man. Keep me posted. Okay. I will do that and I

02:05:26.149 --> 02:05:28.138
will let you know when this is out. Fantastic. Fantastic. Thanks,